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#PreAlgPoW Listening TO Students… even when they make you say hmmm!

by Max
October 6th, 2011

This week’s PreAlg PoW, which told the story of a truck driver in Albequerque who drives to many cities in the west and midwest, inspired many different interpretations.

Students made different assumptions which led to different solutions. Most of the assumptions were ones I was expecting (like whether the driver returns to Albequerque after she visits each other city). But some interpretations of the problem made me scratch my head!

I’ve been thinking a lot about what math teachers call mistakes or misconceptions. I believe there are mistakes in math class, and that not all mistakes are useful. For example, I routinely do things like add 2 and 3 and get 6. Other than reminding me I need to get even better at checking my arithmetic, I don’t learn much from that mistake.

On the other hand, I see a lot of math classes in which teachers have said, “mistakes are great, we can all learn from them!” and when students have what the teacher views as a misconception, the teacher might thank the student for airing it. But then the teacher says, “but this is how we do it.” That kind of response, in my mind, shuts the student down.

The fact is, research and experience and common sense all show that when you have an alternate hypothesis in your mind, you won’t let it go until you have come to believe for yourself that it isn’t true. We’ve all seen how a student’s misconception can persist in the face of evidence until they really internalize a better theory. Being told “this is how we do this” doesn’t help, because you usually forget what you’re told if it doesn’t agree with your ideas.

What if we called some kinds of misconceptions “working hypotheses” instead? “Working hypothesis” implies to me:

  • it should be respected.
  • it should be the community’s job to understand it, describe the implications, and test it out.
  • it will change, but it will change based on evidence and process, not on being told.

So what does that have to do with this week’s PoW? I wonder if it’s possible for me to look at some of these off-the-wall solutions, describe the working hypothesis, name the implications, and provide the student some evidence to confirm or repute the hypothesis. It will be a challenge and I hope you’ll play along!

First I did 31×5,000.The answer is 30000.

My first thought is that he noticed the 5,000 from the problem, and I wonder if the 31 comes from the number of days in August. Maybe this sentence in the problem, “For the month of August, Lani’s logbook shows that she traveled about 5,000 miles.” gave him the hypothesis, “Lani traveled about 5,000 miles per day, each day in August.” That makes sense if you think of a logbook as something you write in each day.

The implications of that are that Lani spent a lot of time driving and she made many, many trips to each city. For the student, I’d want to help him make his units explicit (is 30,000 miles per month? Or some other period of time? What are the units of the 31 and 5,000?) so he knows what his working hypothesis is. Then I’d like him to address the other questions based on his working hypothesis. How many trips to each city might she make each day? Each month? How many hours might she spend behind the wheel. I think he may encounter a contradiction when he thinks about how long it takes to drive 5,000 miles. At that point, he may need to question his hypothesis about the units of the 5,000 miles in the problem (it might be miles per week or per month. What’s reasonable?) Comparing his work with another student’s might also be fruitful, if both students had good skills for listening and comparing thoughtfully.

The answer to the question is she spent 200 hours behind the wheel in the month of August. She went to Chicago 5 times,she went to Denver 16 times, she went to El Paso 3 times and she went to Los Angeles 1 time.

I solved the problem by making a chart for the list of where she went and how many times. On the chart I put how many miles it took her on the way there and on the way back. Then I divided how many miles it took for the whole trip then I divided that by 65 because that was how many miles per hour she was going then i divided that by 8. I divided that by 8 because that was how many hours she worked and I got 5 remainder 1 but rounded that up to 5. 5 is the total amount of times she went to Denver I did that with all the other cities too.

I think this student might have had a valid working hypothesis, and then overgeneralized it. Here’s one possible interpretation of the work. They figured out how many days out of the month the trucker would spend on a trip to Chicago, by dividing the round trip distance to Chicago by 65 mph, and then the number of hours by 8. The 5 that the student refers to would mean that each round trip to Chicago would take 5 working days. That’s a useful calculation to do and could be used to make a reasonable list of trips. However, the fact that we don’t know what percentage of her time the trucker spends driving, nor how many days she works per month, might make any estimate based on hours less accurate.

Then, there’s the issue that the student took a quantity that should have had units of “days spent per trip” and instead used it as “number of trips.” To me, that’s a plain old mistake that stems from not organizing carefully what the numbers in the calculation really mean (Annie wrote about this issue in a blog post last week). I’d start by having the student talk through the calculation, saying the units (what are you counting? What will the result of that calculation tell you?). I’d help him or her to realize the genuine mistake.

Once the student was clear about the units in the calculation and knew 5 measures “days a trip to Chicago takes” I would ask them to think about what they know about the trucker’s work in August. I’d be curious to hear their reasonable estimate for how many days she spent driving, as well as any thoughts they had about possible sources of error. I’d also be curious to hear what other facts and figures they noticed about the trucker that could be used to check their estimates.

790-446=
X=344 miles between LA and Denver
She was behind the wheel for 25 hours

Last but certainly not least is one that’s really got me wondering. I agree that 790 – 446 = 344. I don’t know how they estimated the 25 hours behind the wheel (344/65 = 5ish). I’m also not sure how they chose to focus on the LA to Denver portion, or how they thought LA, Albuquerque, and Denver were situated on the map to be able to subtract to find the miles between LA and Denver. It’s awfully tempting to say that this student doesn’t have any working hypothesis. On their other hand, they clearly did some math and even explained a bit about what they did. Can you name a working hypothesis this student might have, or what experience you’d want them to have next?

Some “Getting Your Kicks On Route 66″ links in case you are interested:

  • The problem [requires a Math Forum PoW Membership].
  • Information about accessing “Getting Your Kicks On Route 66″ (and all our current PoWs) for two weeks with a free Math Forum trial account.
  • Information about becoming a Math Forum Problems of the Week Member. Compare prices – consider starting with a $25 membership giving you access to all of this year’s Current PoWs — and now you can create 36 student logins as well!
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Free Scenario, Scholar Search Edition: “Lillian’s Lines”

by Max
October 2nd, 2011

The pictures below came from an idea a friend of mine had…. Looking at a grid of squares, imagine drawing diagonal lines across the squares. If the line hits a wall, bounce off at a 45º angle. If it hits a corner, stop drawing the line.

You can play around with the game on the NCTM Illuminations site.

Here are some of the patterns we drew. What do you notice about them? What do you wonder? Leave a comment to tell us!

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Free Scenario: Scholar Search Edition, Car Wash

by Max
October 2nd, 2011

At the Scholar Search Conference in Boston today, I got to Notice and Wonder about this image. I’m curious to hear what you notice and wonder about it. Leave a comment to tell me!

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#PreAlgPoW Guess and Check

by Max
September 22nd, 2011

This week’s PreAlgPoW, which asked students to find a pair of integers that would satisfy four equations at once, had a lot of guess and check solutions. That got me wondering… What do we want to know about guess and check solutions? What can we learn from comparing and studying different guess and check solutions? Are there different ways to guess and check? Are some more elegant or effective or efficient?

Another thing I got to wondering was, if I were a classroom teacher and the many students who submitted guess and check solutions were in my class, how would I orchestrate the class discussion on the solutions? Thinking about Peg Smith and Mary Kay Stein’s 5 practices for orchestrating math discussions (you can read more about them on Christopher Danielson’s blog), I wondered, “Which students would I select? In what sequence would I ask students to present their work? What connections would I help students make?”

Here are six solutions I selected that I thought made an interesting guess and check story:

First I looked at all the equations to see which one would have the least possible answers. That equation was 3Xquadrilateral divided by 8Xcircle. I knew this was the best one to choose because I just needed to find the ricipricol, which was 8 over 3. After I figured out the answer to that equation I just plugged the rest in to each equation.

I got my answer by finding the factors of 48 and testing a pair of factors for each equation until I got to the last number sentence and realized that I could’ve gotten my answer by just looking at the two numbers on the fraction.

I got the answer by looking for number that can be subtracted by each other that will equal -5. I found many answers but then I was stuck with one answer, 3 and 8. So I checked it with the other questions. They all matched. So I finally checked it with the first question. Then it was correct. The answer would be 3 and 8.

For this problem I first knew that for the last problem, the numerator and the denomenator had to be the same number. To start I used the LCM of 3 and 8 which was 24. When I plugged in 3 for the circles and 8 for the quadrilateral, it solved all of the problems so I knew it was right.

I got my answer from guess and check. i took the problem below the first and tried Circle=1 and Diamond=6. i did that because 1-6=-5. i put it into the top and saw that it did not work. i tried C=2 and D=7, but it did not work either. i tried C=3 and D=8 and it worked on the first, second, third, and fourth problem.

I notice that the circle is larger than the quad. First, I substituted 2 and 3, which made no sense. Then I tried 10 and 15,  which still didn’t work. then, I looked at the bottom, and found the obvious answer. Circle is 3 and quad is 8.
(1*3)(2*8) makes 48.
3-8=-5
8sq+3sq= 73.
3*8
—–  = 1
8*3

Below are my thoughts on one possible sequence and connections story. How would you order these samples? What connections do you notice?

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#AlgPoW #PoWPlanet Conversations

by Max
September 16th, 2011

This school year’s first AlgPoW, “The Custom of Customs” was a challenging problem to start the year with! In the office, we debated whether it was appropriate or not, and here is some of our thinking:

  • The problem has many valid approaches, and it’s neat to compare them all. Logical reasoning, guess and check, writing an expression with one variable, writing an expression with two variables, etc.
  • The problem really focuses our attention on Understanding the Problem, and approaches such as “Notice and Wonder,” “Act it Out,” and “Key Words.” Which of those are you familiar with? Which do you want to learn more about?
  • You can revisit this problem at different times through the year to focus on how you would solve it with different approaches. What happens when you use Guess and Check to solve the problem? What if you Make a Mathematical Model?

Plus, we liked that the problem had an international flair because some Math Forum PoW members are using the PoWs to start online conversations about math and problem solving across countries and continents. Cool, huh? They are tweeting at the #powplanet hashtag, and will be using blogs and videochats at the PoW Planet website.

What’s so important about mathematical conversations? What can people learn from sharing their math ideas and reading others’ ideas? What’s important when sharing your ideas and talking about others’? I think this problem gives us a lot of good ways to think about those questions!

For one thing, “The Custom of Customs” problem has two different answers, depending on how you think about the situation. The problem focuses on two wine merchants who are forced to pay customs duties at a border. Neither has enough cash to pay the duties, so they pay using some of their casks of wine. What’s open to interpretation is whether they should pay the customs duties on those casks of wine they give to the border agents. What do you think?

Here are some examples of student work from this problem, and some of the questions I would ask those students. What would you ask? What do these examples make you think about good ways to facilitate student learning?

let n be the duties of 20 casks
let c be the price of each casks

20 casks=n
64 casks=64n/20

5c-64n/20=-40    x2
2c-n=40               x5

10c-6.4n=-80
10c-5n=200

-1.4n=-280
n=200 >> this is for 20 casks, so for 1 cask= 10

2c-40=200
2c=240
c=120

I am really excited to learn more about how this student, from Indonesia, chose to work on the duties of 20 casks. I never would have thought of that and it seems like a neat idea! After that I have some wonderings about what some of the other numbers represent, and what the units are, to help me understan the student’s reasoning. For example, I’m not sure exactly what the terms in the 2c – n = 40 equation represents are. Maybe some units would help me follow? If I had to guess, I’d say the relationship is: “cost of 2 casks in francs, minus the total duty on twenty casks in francs = 40 francs,” but I’m not sure.

Here is another example that I’d like to know more about, this one from a student in the US.

Each cask cost 120 francs and the duty on a cask is 10 francs.

6 casks + 40 francs + 2 casks – 40 francs = 7 casks
10 casks would be 1 cask – 20 francs

I think the student had a typo in the 2nd line, and meant to write 5 casks + 40 francs + 2 casks – 40 francs = 7 casks. But more than that I’m wondering what the student did next. If they had any ways, for example, to use their unique discoveries: the duties on 84 casks was 7 casks, and the duties on 10 casks would be 1 cask – 20 francs. I wonder if there are ways to figure out the duties on other amounts of casks? I wonder if there are ways to find out the duties in pure francs from those two pieces of information? How did the student work with that data. It’s such a neat strategy to try different calculations and see what sorts of results you get, and how you can combine results to make new calculations!

So… I thought that reading students’ thinking stimulated my thinking and led me to neat wonderings and math that was new to me! When students labeled their values and said what the terms represented, it was easier for me to follow their ideas and learn more, but either way I had a good time reflecting on what their ideas could have been. I hope that the students who get involved in the PoW Planet project also have a good time sharing their math ideas and getting new “wonderings” from one another.

Some “Custom of Customs” links in case you are interested:

  • The problem [available for free thanks to the Math Forum Financial Education project].
  • Information about accessing all of our current PoWs for two weeks with a free Math Forum trial account.
  • Information about becoming a Math Forum Problems of the Week Member. Compare prices – consider starting with a $25 membership giving you access to all of this year’s Current PoWs — and now you can create 36 student logins as well!
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#PreAlgPoW: How do you know your “Duke is Missing” answer is right?

by Max
September 7th, 2011

In previous posts about “Duke is Missing,” I blogged about launching and exploring. The next step, traditionally, is summarizing. I’ve been thinking a lot recently about one kind of summarizing, “how do I know I’m right?” A big classroom goal for me is for students to be in charge of answering that question, instead of looking to me to be the arbiter. I want my students to know that math makes sense and they are smart enough and have the authority to figure out if their answer makes sense.

This submitter shows us the work they did, but I’m curious, how do they know their answer is right?

head=6in
tail=head + 1/2 body=6in+ 1/2 body
body=head+tail=9in +1/4 body

tail=12in
body=18in

Some good questions to help confirm you’re right are:

  • Is my answer reasonable?
    • (In this case, yeah, 3 feet long is reasonable for a setter.)
  • Does my answer match the constraints of the problem?
    • (No, if Duke’s body is 18″ then his tail should be 6″ + 9″ = 15″, since the mean brother says his tail is the length of his head plus half of his body.)
  • Is my work accurate?
    • (I think it’s inaccurate to say “head+tail=9in +1/4 body” since head + tail = head + head + 1/2body and 9in + 1/4body = head + half the tail which is not the same.)
  • Can I confirm my answer with another method?
    • (Maybe guess and check would be a good next method for this student to try?)

Telling the story of how you know you’re right can help you catch your own mistakes, as well as help you solidify your own understanding and help other people who might read your work. It’s a great habit and one we hope to get good at with the PoWs during the year.

How do you help your students take charge of knowing their right? What checking work strategies or routines are you using or wondering about?

Some “Duke is Missing” links in case you are interested:

  • The problem [requires a Math Forum PoW Membership].
  • Information about accessing “Duke is Missing” (and all our current PoWs) for two weeks with a free Math Forum trial account.
  • Information about becoming a Math Forum Problems of the Week Member. Compare prices – consider starting with a $25 membership giving you access to all of this year’s Current PoWs — and now you can create 36 student logins as well!
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#PreAlgPoW: Explaining How you Solved “Duke is Missing”

by Max
September 7th, 2011

My first post about “Duke is Missing” focused on wondering. I think of wondering as a good part of launching the PoW. Then comes exploring… we love to know about all the thinking that goes into working on the problem. Check out this submission to the “Duke is Missing” problem:

i got that dukes body is 24 inches because his tail (18 inches) and his head (6 inches) sum is 24 inches which is equall to his body. so his tail is 6 inches (his head) plus 12 (half his body).

For this one, I keep wondering, “How did you think to choose 24 inches for the body?” As a reader, I’m really curious! I also think the submitter probably did some good thinking, and without writing down what they thought, they can’t get feedback on it, and they might not be able to use their good thinking discover more math, wonder more, or think about how to solve a similar problem.

Some good questions to get to the next level of explanation are:

  • What strategy did I use?
  • What made me think of that strategy?
  • How did I come up with that number — was it a good guess? an adjustment of a previous guess?

What would you ask this student to learn more about their thinking process?

How could writing about thinking help the student improve their math & problem-solving skills?

Some “Duke is Missing” links in case you are interested:

  • The problem [requires a Math Forum PoW Membership].
  • Information about accessing “Duke is Missing” (and all our current PoWs) for two weeks with a free Math Forum trial account.
  • Information about becoming a Math Forum Problems of the Week Member. Compare prices – consider starting with a $25 membership giving you access to all of this year’s Current PoWs — and now you can create 36 student logins as well!
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#PreAlgPoW: Wondering about “Duke Is Missing”

by Max
September 7th, 2011

This year’s first Pre-Algebra Problem of the Week, “Duke is Missing,” is the story of a mean brother who “helps” his sister describe their lost dog’s length to the SPCA through a confusing math riddle. I have to confess I never much liked the problem. I think it’s because, as a dog lover, I find what the brother did to be REALLY mean! Seriously, what kind of jerk would do something like that in a time of crisis?

But… I do have a new puppy and the problem got me wondering… does my puppy have the same proportions as Duke? Are his proportions changing as he grows? In the picture below, from the day we got him, he weighed 13lbs and was 7 weeks old. I measured and got the following ratios:

  • tail:body :: 8:20
  • tail:head :: 23:20
  • head:body :: 7:20.
Orent

Orent, Max's 7-week old, 13lb puppy. Photo by Kaytee Riek

Here’s a more recent picture if you’re curious about how the ratios have changed as he’s grown!

Orent older

Orent last week, nearly 4 months and 40 lbs.

Wondering is one thing that we really focus on when we think about PoWs and problem solving. A good problem should lead you to think about something (puppies, for example) in a new way, or to want to discover more patterns and math.

Here’s something else I’m wondering about… at the beginning of a school year in Pre-Algebra, how do we support students to make sense of the relationships in a problem, whether they’re representing them algebraically or not? Here is some student work that I’m wondering how to respond to. What would you say?

2(6+(6+1/2B))=X. Im not quite sure how i got the answer

I’m looking forward to reading about your wonderings, noticings, mentoring ideas, and tips for PoWs in the blog comments!

Some “Duke is Missing” links in case you are interested:

  • The problem [requires a Math Forum PoW Membership].
  • Information about accessing “Duke is Missing” (and all our current PoWs) for two weeks with a free Math Forum trial account.
  • Information about becoming a Math Forum Problems of the Week Member. Compare prices – consider starting with a $25 membership giving you access to all of this year’s Current PoWs — and now you can create 36 student logins as well!
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Free Scenario: Eating Contest (Special #powplanet Edition)

by Max
August 21st, 2011

You may have noticed the #powplanet hashtag on Twitter. It’s advertising a new collaboration between the Math Forum and Mrs. Tinashe Blanchet. Students around the world will be tweeting and blogging and sharing their problem solving, and discussing each others’ work. If you’d like to get your students involved, you can email us to learn more about the project.

Eating Contest

After watching the famous hot dog eating contest at Coney Island this summer, four kids decided to have their own contest to see who could eat the most green beans in five minutes.

Caleb ate an impressive number of beans, but Josh ate eight more than Caleb did. Elsie ate fifteen fewer than twice as many as Caleb did. Sol’s total was thirty more than half of Caleb’s.

 

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What do you Notice? What do you Wonder?

by Max
July 29th, 2011

Every week while shopping at our local wholesale store, we walk by the piles of bananas displayed on a table. Sometimes they are quite green and other times they look yellow and ripe but we have noticed that we never see any bananas that are too ripe. We wondered why and decided to ask.

A guy working in the produce department said that an important part of his job is to make sure to carry enough bananas to meet demand but not so many that they aren’t purchased before they become too ripe and need to be discarded. He proudly reported, “We regularly stay below the allowable waste of 3.8% set by corporate management. This week we only had to throw away 293 bananas.

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