


30 September 1998 Vol. 3, No. 39A
THE MATH FORUM INTERNET NEWS - SEPTEMBER 1998 DISCUSSIONS
This special issue of the Math Forum's weekly newsletter
highlights interesting conversations taking place during
September of 1998 on Internet math discussion groups.
For a full list of these groups, with links to topics covered
and information on how to subscribe, see:
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SEPTEMBER SUGGESTIONS:
AMTE - the mailing list of the Association of Mathematics
Teacher Educators, archived by the Math Forum at:
http://mathforum.org/epigone/amte/
- "Multiplication charts" (23 Sept. 1998)
http://mathforum.org/epigone/amte/brensmexyax/
- "Basic Facts" (24 Sept. 1998)
http://mathforum.org/epigone/amte/shingsningspar/
Should children know their multiplication tables? Should
they be allowed to use calculators in the classroom to find
basic facts? Can calculators teach multiplication facts?
A spirited discussion with tips for teaching multiplication
from Wayne Bishop, Randolph Philipp, Marilyn Simon, Julita
Lambating, and Ruth Parker; a game from Stephen Sproule;
and citations from Andy Isaacs to the NCTM Standards on
computational competence and mastering basic facts.
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AP-CALC - the Advanced Placement Calculus mailing list, hosted
by the Educational Testing Service (ETS) and archived at:
http://mathforum.org/epigone/ap-calc
- "new new math limit" (10 Sept. 1998)
http://mathforum.org/epigone/ap-calc/fryflehclin/
"I recently saw a course objective for first semester
calculus that suggested that the student will learn to find
the limit of a function defined by a table, a graph or an
analytical expression. I practically swallowed my tongue.
Anybody else see a problem with this?" - Geoff Hagopian
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APSTAT-L - the Advanced Placement Statistics mailing list,
archived by the Math Forum at:
http://mathforum.org/epigone/apstat-l/
- "Standard Normal Tables" (20 Sept. 1998)
http://mathforum.org/epigone/apstat-l/nimbilverm/
"Does the Ap Stat test include questions that will require
standardizing data and using normal tables or can my
students just use the TI-83's Normalcdf (lower bound, upper
bound, mean, st. dev.) and Invnorm (percentile, mean, st.
dev.)? ... my students justifiably want to know why they are
using a table when they all have a TI-83." - Paul Chiment
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MATHEDU, a mailing list set up to discuss issues in Mathematics/
Education at the post-calculus level, and archived at:
http://mathforum.org/epigone/mathedu/
- "Diagrams and formal arguments" (14 Sept. 1998)
http://mathforum.org/epigone/mathedu/gerdtenpex/
"Bob Burn and I have been working on a revision of his book
Numbers and Functions. This is a first course in epsilon-delta
analysis. In particular we are planning to include many more
diagrams. We find ourselves in a dilemma. On the one hand
diagrams certainly make understanding more profound, more
rounded and deeper. On the other hand, one of the things one
is (normally) trying to introduce to students in this course
is a more formal method of arguing....
"Since one of our objectives is to teach students to argue more
formally and to distinguish formal arguments from appeals to
the intuition, we would be very dissatisfied with responses
from mathedu that told us not to bother with formality.
Incidentally, the two-column method was emphasized on this
list a few months ago. Its use is one of the many things we
have learned from the list." - David Epstein
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NUMERACY, for those interested in the discussion of educational
issues around adult mathematical literacy, archived at:
http://mathforum.org/epigone/numeracy/
- "Order of Operations" (15 Sept. 1998)
http://mathforum.org/epigone/numeracy/stoclangkimp/
"Can anyone help me with this math hint and accompanying
example given in a book I used this spring with an ABE class?
The hint reads 'All operations above a division line must be
completed before the division can be performed.'..."
- Esther D. Leonelli
"...we wrote a chapter called "Where do we start?" which
attempted to demonstrate what order you needed to do the
operations, but through everyday applications related to
shopping, etc., using money. Using these applications we
tried to show that in order to write down 'our' calculations
and get the answer you know you should get, you need some
conventions so that everyone (including when we use the
calculator) gets the same answer..." - Dave Tout
"One of the interesting things about the order of operations
is that it is only necessary to consciously think about it for
written expressions (in other words, expressions in which the
order of computing the problem has been determined by someone
else). As soon as we see what practical situation the
calculations relate to we have a sense of the order to apply
the operations in." - Brian G. Cann
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