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Areas of Overlapping Squares
March 9-13, 1998

More area. I think you'll find this one interesting, and make sure you provide a good explanation for your answer!

Two congruent 10" x 10" squares overlap. A vertex of one square is at the center of the other square.

What is the largest possible value for the area where they overlap? One square is movable, as long as its vertex remains in the center of the other square.

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Annie says:

Every time I have used this problem I have reminded myself to word it a little differently next time - to ask not only for the maximum area, but for the minimum as well, or maybe just ask for the area. Or at least to really PROVE that you know it's the maximum area that you found. And every time I use it, I forget that I decided I should do that the next time!

So I have a lot of correct answers (162) - a bunch of answers that said that it was always going to be 25 (at least 64), and a bunch more that just said that 25 was the maximum, and showed how they got 25, but didn't say anything about why they know it's a maximum. 29 folks got the problem wrong - some because they didn't explain their answer at all and some because they misunderstood the problem or made some math errors in computing area.

When you are asked for a maximum area, try to explain why you know your answer is THE answer. Finding the area of the square-shaped overlap doesn't necessarily mean you found the maximum. Try some other shapes and see what you get. I still gave credit, but that's because I think the problem isn't worded very well and isn't demanding enough.

A number of people came to the conclusion that "it's always 1/4 of the area," but they never explained what they saw that made them think that was true. Tell me why you said that? What did you see or do in your drawing that helped you come to that conclusion?

There are a couple of ways to "prove" the general case (that it's always 1/4), and we have some super examples of them. One is to show that as the one square moves, the new area that it covers is equal to the area that it uncovers. A lot of people noticed this, but not a lot proved it. When you find something really definite and neat like this, see if you can explain it for sure! I have highlighted solutions from Lim Yin of Raffles Institution and Emma Lindsay of Georgetown Day School. Both do a super job of proving it, and Emma provides a nice picture.

Another method is to prove that the area will always be 25, regardless of the shape. One way to do this is using trigonometry, and I've included solutions from Erik Van de Vreudge of Livermore High School and CG of Germantown Academy. Erik's proof comes with a picture, and CG's comes with a lengthier explanation, though you may need to draw a picture to go along with it while you're reading. But it's worth it.

Perhaps the simplest way of convincing someone that the overlap is 1/4 the area of one of the squares is to extend the sides of the moving square and notice that since your two lines meet in the middle of the square at 90 degree angles, there are four equal areas showing in the square at all times. Alison Miller, who is homeschooled, did a good sketch of this, and I've included a picture as well as a Java version of her sketch for you to play with.

One last thing. When you are faced with a problem like this and you are asked for the maximum area, it's good to point out that it's 1/4 of the area of one of the squares, but it's also imperative that you give a NUMBER with your answer! You're also being tested on whether you can find the area of a region.

A list of all the people who got this problem right follows the highlighted solutions below, and most of the solutions are also available.




From:   C.G.
        sagbad@aol.com
Grade:  9
School: Germantown Academy, Fort Washington, Pennsylvania

Subject: POW March 9-13

please see attachment
C.G.
Germantown Academy, grade 9
Fort Washington, PA
POW March 9-13

Question:
What is the largest possible value for the area where two congruent 10 in. by 10 
in. squares overlap if a vertex of one square is at the center of the other?


Answer:
     The largest possible value for the area where they overlap is 25 inches.  
Three possible combinations were tested, and each resulted with an area of 25.
     This is the first combination:

We know that each side of both squares is 10.  When the second square is placed 
over the first like this, the base of the first square and one side of it are 
covered.  The smaller square that is formed by their overlap has an area of 25 
because each of it's sides is 5: the base is 5 because that is half of the base 
of the first square, and a side is 5 because that is half of the side of the 
first square.  If two sides of a square are known, the others are known 
too...each side = 5 in.  The area of a square is "side squared", so 5 squared = 
25.
     This is the second combination:

The overlap forms an isosceles triangle.  To find it's area, first we must find 
the length of the diagonals of the non-overlapping square using the Pythagorean 
Theorem.  10 squared + 10 squared = hypoteneuse squared.  The diagonals are both 
5 root 8.  Now we must divide that by 2, because half of each diagonal serves as 
the legs of the isosceles triangle.  Each leg is 5 root 2, and since the base of 
the triangle is also the base of the non-overlapping square, we know that the 
hypoteneuse of the isosceles triangle is 10.  The formula for area of a triangle 
is (1/2)(base)(height).  We know the base is 10, but to find the height, an 
altitude must be drawn from the top of the triangle to the midpoint of the base.  
Two right triangles are now formed, with bases of 5 (half of 10) and 
hypoteneuses of 5 root 2.  Using the Pythagorean Theorem, the altitude can be 
found to be 5:  5 squared + altitude squared = (5 root 2)squared.  Now we can 
put the 5 into the area equation as the height.  So, (1/2)(10)(5) = area = 25 
inches!
     This is the third combination:                                      

In order to find the area of this overlap, a line must be drawn from the center 
of the non-overlapping square (point A) to the midpoint of the left side of it, 
which forms a new right triangle with the base 5 (half the 10 inch median of the 
square).  Call this triangle #1. To find the other leg of this triangle, we can 
use the tangent of A which equals it's opposite side divided by it's adjacent 
side, which is 5.  So, the unknown opposite leg is 5 times the tangent of A.  
Now it is nessary to seperate the overlap into a right trapezoid and a right 
triangle, which we'll call triangle #2.  Side "b" of the trapezoid equals 5 - 
5(tanA) because the entire section equals 5 (half the side of the non-
overlapping square), and we are subtracting the part we know from 5 to find the 
part we do not know.  The area of a trapezoid is (height)(base1+base2)/2, and we 
know that the height would be 5 because that is half the base of the non-
overlapping square, and that the bases are 5 (half the vertical median) and 5 
times the tangent of 5.  5(5+5tanA)/2 = area of the trapezoid.  Now we have to 
find the area of right triangle #2.  We know that triangle #1 and triangle #2 
are congruent because of the Angle-Side-Angle Postulate, so the base of triangle 
#2 is also 5 times the tangent of A.  The area of a traingle is (1/
2)(base)(height), so the area of triangle #2 = (1/2)(5-tanA)(5) = 25tanA/2.  
Finally, to get the area of the overlap, we can add the area of the trapezoid to 
the area of triangle #2.  (1/2)(50 - 25tanA + 25tanA) = 25.  The area of the 
overlap of the two congruent squares is 25!!!
     Clearly, the biggest possible area for the overlap is 25 inches.



From:   Alison Miller
        mary_okeeffe@classic.msn.com
Grade:  6
School: homeschooled, Niskayuna, New York

Subject: March 9 Geometry POW

Dear Annie,

Amazingly, the only possible (and obviously the largest) value for the area of 
the overlap is 25 square inches.  My picture shows a case of how you can 
divide the square up into four equal regions (which contain two triangles, one 
of each color) that are (or at least look) congruent and one of the regions is 
the overlap.  If you aren't convinced that the four regions are congruent, 
notice that the triangles that have the same color are congruent.  Also, an 
isosceles right triangle whose hypotenuse is a side of the square contains one 
triangle of both colors.  One of those isosceles right triangles (obviously) 
has an area of 25 square inches.  The overlap also contains one triangle of 
each color, so it also has an area of 25 square inches.



This is true no matter what the overlap looks like, as long as a vertex 
remains in the center.  You can see this by dragging a vertex adjacent to the 
vertex in the center in my sketch.

Sorry, this page requires a Java-compatible web browser.

Alison Miller, Grade 6, Homeschooled, Niskayuna, NY March 9 Geomety POW



From:   Erik Van De Vreugde
        jlvand@jps.net
Grade:  10
School: Livermore High School, Livermore, California

Subject: Problem of the week solution for the area of overlaping squares

As the second square is rotated around the vertex, the overlapping area is 
always 25 square inches.

[two examples in picture]

In example #1 where the square is in a normal position the calculated area is 25 
square inches.  In example #2 where the square is rotated 45 degrees the 
overlapping area is a triangle with an area of 25 square inches.  

The following table represents the calculation of the overlapping area as one 
square is rotated between 0 and 45 degrees.  Base is the length of the base of 
the triangle formed as the square is rotated.  The base is calculated by using 
the formula Tan (angle)=base/5.   Area A represents the area of the triangle A.  
Triangle A and B are congruent.  Area C is the area of rectangle C.  The total 
area is the sum of triangle A, B and rectangle C. 





From:   Emma Lindsay
        elindsay02@gds.org
Grade:  8
School: Georgetown Day School, Washington, DC

Subject: POW 3/13

Emma Lindsay
Grade 8
Georgetown day School
Washington DC
Paul Nass

Dear Annie,
the largest are of overlap will always be 25 cm squared because the section of
overlap is always 25 cm squared



Two cases are shown in the attached JPEG diagram.  In the first case (left hand
column) the sides of square EFGH meet at the sides of square ABCD at 90 degree
angles.  Angle BCD is 90 degrees, therefore HEF must be 90 degrees because the
sum of the angles is 360.  A quadrilateral with four right angles is a square. 
We know that side EO is 5 cm because it is a perpendicular line from the center
of square ABCD, therefore making it half of one side of ABCD, which is 5 cm

If we then rotate square EFCH by x degrees, we get square EKIJ.  The are of
overlap here is also 25 cm squared, which we can prove as follows.  We know
that the angle LEN and angle OEM are congruent.  THis is because they are both
90 degrees less then angle JEF because they they are both adjacent to right
angles in angle JEF.  We know that the angle EOM and ELN are both 90 degrees
because they are both corners of the given squares.  We also know EO and EL are
congruent because they are both 5 cm.

We now know that triangle NEL is congruent to triangle MEO because of the
angle-side-angle theorem.  We know that quadrilateral NCME is always the same
as EOCL because any area that is lost through triangle MEO is gained through
triangle NEL

This works in all cases beacause the triangles only have to be congruent to
each other, not anything else.  This is shown in the right hand column of the
diagram.  Rotating in the opposite direction, we can go through all of the same
steps and get the same answer.




The following students submitted correct solutions this week:

Hui Shen, Grade 11, Killara High School, Australia
Lim Yin, Grade 10, Raffles Institution, Singapore
Nick Edwards, Grade 9, Skyview High School, Vancouver, Washington
Chrissy Beaulieu, Grade 10, Marple Newtown Senior High School, Newtown Square, Pennsylvania
Milan Fillmore, Grade 9, Smoky Hill High School, Aurora, Colorado
Leona Reeves, Grade 10, Neah-Kah-Nie High School
Natasha , Grade 9, Bexley High School, Bexley, Ohio
Bradley Jennings, Grade 9, Chetek High School, Chetek, Wiconsin
Melissa Branfman, Grade 8, Georgetown Day School, Washington, DC
Joe Larkin, Grade 10, Marple Newtown Senior High School, Newtown Square, Pennsylvania
Melissa Branfman, Grade 8, Georgetown Day School, Washington, DC
Kathleen Moore, Grade 9, Southeast Raleigh High School, Raleigh, South Carolina
Emily Castor, Grade 9, Granada High School, Livermore, California
Emily O'Brien, Grade 10, School Without Walls Senior High School, Washington, D.C.
Jonathan Emmons and Karen Altice, Grade 9, Franklin County High School, Rocky Mount, Virginia
Amey Adkins, Grade 9, Franklin County High School, Rocky Mount, Virginia
John Clemson and Aaron Diamond, Grade 11 & 10, Sam Barlow High School, Gresham, Oregon
Anne Marie Abell, Grade 10, Washington County High School, Springfield, Kentucky
Ginger King, Grade 9, Washington County High School, Springfield, Kentucky
Ken Duisenberg, Grade Stanford University '93, Hewlett Packard Engineer, Santa Rosa, California
Jacob Ornelas, Grade , Smoky Hill High School, Aurora, Colorado
Shanon Moore, Grade 11, Livermore High School, Livermore, California
Mina Ashkannejhad, Grade 9, Skyview High School, Vancouver, Washington
Marta Williams, Grade 9, Skyview High School, Vancouver, Washington
Megan Nowak, Grade 8, Odle Middle School, Bellevue, Washington
Diana Tyson, Grade 10, Academy of Allied Health and Science, Chattanooga, Tennessee
Katie Anthony, Grade 9, Casady School, Oklahoma City, Oklahoma
Betsy Feldman, Grade 9, Marple Newtown Senior High School, Newtown Square, Pennsylvania
Renee Cohen, Grade 9, Bexley High School, Bexley, Ohio
Kevin Palmer, Grade 9, Granada High School, Livermore, California
Matthew Hiatt, Grade 8, Smoky Hill High School, Aurora, Colorado
Helen Wong, Grade 7, Odle Middle School, Bellevue, Washington
Brandi Tsama Marsh, Grade 9, Ethel Walker School, Simsbury, Connecticut
Richard Balsley, Grade 10, Granada High School, Livermore, California
mike Johannsen, Grade 11, Granada High School, Livermore, California
Darren Kerstien and Rob Eagle and Mark VanArsthdale and John Yi, Grade 7 & 8, Challenge School, Denver, Colorado
Brandon Brown, Grade 10, School for Young Performers, New York, New York
Victoria, Grade 10, Inchelium High School, Inchelium, Washington
Sara Kaiser, Grade 11, Clatskanie High School, Clatskanie, Oregon
Gordon Bockus Jr., Grade 9, Eastern Oklahoma State College, Wilburton, Oklahoma
Dan Peischl, Grade 9, Marple Newtown Senior High School, Newtown Square, Pennsylvania
Dan Chambers, Grade 9, Granada High School, Livermore, California
Saurabh Sarkar, Grade 8, Albright Middle School, Houston, Texas
Matthew Shaw, Grade 10, Skyview High School, Vancouver, Washington
Bob Kneck III, Grade 10, Skyview High School, Vancouver, Washington
Kristen Kamerdula, Grade 11, Livermore High School, Livermore, California
Catherine Mangasi, Grade 12, Wilburton High School, Oklahoma City, Oklahoma
Megan Ross, Grade 9, East Mecklenburg High School, Charlotte, North Carolina
Julia Tarlo, Grade 10, Mount Saint Joseph Academy, Flourtown, Pennsylvania
Carol Kim, Grade 10, Marple Newtown Senior High School, Newtown Square, Pennsylvania
Arielle Cohen, Grade 10, Akiba Hebrew Academy, Merion, Pennsylvania
Theresa Perry, Grade 10, Granada High School, Livermore, California
Sarah Nowak, Grade 8, Odle Middle School, Bellevue, Washington
Matthew Macumber, Grade 9, Campbell High School, Smyrna, Georgia
Sherry Snell, Grade 10, Swartz High School
Dan McCoy , Grade 9 , Marple Newtown Senior High School, Newtown Square, Pennsylvania
Megan Via, Grade 9, Franklin County High School, Rocky Mount, Virginia
David Choi, Grade 9, Marple Newtown Senior High School, Newtown Square, Pennsylvania
DeDe DiDonato, Grade 10, Mount Saint Joseph Academy, Flourtown, Pennsylvania
Justin McVicker, Grade 9, Livermore High School, Livermore, California
Stephen Nolen, Grade 9, Smoky Hill High School, Aurora, Colorado
Carol Vivaldelli, Grade 10, Mount Saint Joseph Academy, Flourtown, Pennsylvania
Jim Nguyen, Grade 9, Smoky Hill High School, Aurora, Colorado
Chris Jones, Grade 10, Shelby County High School, Columbiana, Alabama
Adam Donovan and Dan Adams, Grade 7, Brooks School, Lincoln, Massachusetts
Jessica Arendal, Grade 8, Georgetown Day School, Washington, DC
Bridgette Ellis and Crystal Cannaday, Grade 9, Franklin County High School, Rocky Mount, Virginia
Maureen Brady, Grade 10, Mount Saint Joseph Academy, Flourtown, Pennsylvania
Michelle Wagner, Grade , Mount Saint Joseph Academy, Flourtown, Pennsylvania
Mary Diamond and Mary Kenney, Grade 10, Mount Saint Joseph Academy, Flourtown, Pennsylvania
Tanya Colburn, Grade 10, Mount Saint Joseph Academy, Flourtown, Pennsylvania
Priscilla Hamilton, Grade 10, Washington County High School, Springfield, Kentucky
Brie Compton and Abbie Rowley, Grade 10, Mount Saint Joseph Academy, Flourtown, Pennsylvania
Amber Benedict, Grade 10, Washington County High School, Springfield, Kentucky
Jon Gantman, Grade 10, Akiba Hebrew Academy, Merion, Pennsylvania
Heather Whalley, Grade 11, Livermore High School, Livermore, California
Noam Abrams, Grade 10, Akiba Hebrew Academy, Merion, Pennsylvania
Avrum Tilman, Grade 10, Akiba Hebrew Academy, Merion, Pennsylvania
Hannah Margoles, Grade 10, Akiba Hebrew Academy, Merion, Pennsylvania
Gina Christenson, Grade 9, Southeast Raleigh High School, Raleigh, North Carolina
Zach Moore, Grade 9, Smoky Hill High School, Aurora, Colorado
Mathew Steadman, Grade 8, Odle Middle School, Bellevue, Washington
Frannie Laks, Grade 10, Akiba Hebrew Academy, Merion, Pennsylvania
June Lin, Grade 5, Sahuaro Elementary School, Tuscon, Arizona
Jake Nelson, Grade 9, Smoky Hill High School, Aurora, Colorado
Alex Morgovsky, Grade 11, Akiba Hebrew Academy, Merion, Pennsylvani
Sarah Kress, Grade 9, Mount Saint Joseph Academy, Flourtown, Pennsylvania
?????, Grade 10, Bishop O'Connell
Teodora Niculce and Alexandra Niculce, Grade 10, Reading High School, Reading, Pennsylvania
Jenny Kaplan, Grade 7, Castilleja Middle School, Palo Alto, California
Catalina Anghel, Grade , Mackenzie High School, Deep River, Ontario, Canada
Sonia Teas, Grade 10, Oak Park and River Forest High School, Oak Park, Illinois
Chris Mize, Grade 9, Southeast Raleigh High School, Raleigh, North Carolina
Andrew Krawczel, Grade 9, Franklin County High School, Rocky Mount, Virginia
Greg Rogers, Grade 11, Granada High School, Livermore, California
Ashley Monroe, Grade 9, Casady School, Oklahoma City, Oklahoma
Allison Yang, Grade 5, Bartle Elementary School, Highland Park, New Jersey
Lawrence Lombard, Grade 12, Rosamond High School, Rosamond, California
Mallory VanderKooy, Grade 9, Franklin County High School, Rocky Mount, Virginia
Sarah Hesson, Grade 10, Mount Saint Joseph Academy, Flourtown, Pennsylvania
Scott, Grade 9, East Mecklenburg High School, Charlotte, North Carolina
Lindsey Fangman, Grade , Redmond High School, Redmond, Oregon
Raun Atkinson, Grade , Redmond High School, Redmond, Oregon
Rob Johnson and Bryce Withers, Grade , Redmond High School, Redmond, Oregon
Doug Yoder, Grade 12, Highland Park Senior High School, St. Paul, Minnesota
Tiffanie Lam, Grade 8, Sequoia Middle School, Pleasant Hill, California
Matt Niederst, Grade 10, Shaler Area High School, Pittsburgh, Pennsylvania
Steve Platt, Grade , Redmond High School, Redmond, Oregon
Katy Wilde and Nathan Walker and Haley Zwicker, Grade , Redmond High School, Redmond, Oregon
Thomas Po, Grade 8, Odle Middle School, Bellevue, Washington
Neha Dalal, Grade 10, Roselle Park High School, Roselle Park, New Jersey
Clint Soose, Grade 10, Shaler Area High School, Pittsburgh, Pennsylvania
Travis Guy, Grade , Redmond High School, Redmond, Oregon
Brian Porch, Grade , Redmond High School, Redmond, Oregon
Peter Hoover, Grade , Redmond High School, Redmond, Oregon
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Mark Goodman and Heather Westendorf, Grade , Redmond High School, Redmond, Oregon
Cari Arsenault, Grade , Redmond High School, Redmond, Oregon
Santa Goleme and Jessica McCann, Grade 12, Roselle Park High School, Roselle Park, New Jersey
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C.G., Grade 9, Germantown Academy, Fort Washington, Pennsylvania
Alison Miller, Grade 6, homeschooled, Niskayuna, New York
Erik Van De Vreugde, Grade 10, Livermore High School, Livermore, California
Jen Erhart, Grade , Shaler Area High School, Pittsburgh, Pennsylvania
Lauren Moser, Grade , Shaler Area High School, Pittsburgh, Pennsylvania
Anh Nguyen, Grade 9, Highland Park Senior High School, St. Paul, Minnesota
Elizabeth Levine, Grade 8, Georgetown Day School, Washington, DC
Mac VerStandig, Grade 8, Georgetown Day School, Washington, DC
Grant Bramwell, Grade 8, Georgetown Day School, Washington, DC
Ben Reed, Grade 8, Georgetown Day School, Washington, DC
Ariel Berenstein, Grade 8, Georgetown Day School, Washington, DC
David Zax, Grade 8, Georgetown Day School, Washington, DC
Sonya Kharas, Grade 8, Georgetown Day School, Washington, DC
Emma Lindsay, Grade 8, Georgetown Day School, Washington, DC
Thao Vuong, Grade 9, Highland Park Senior High School, St. Paul, Minnesota
My Trinh, Grade 9, Highland Park Senior High School, St. Paul, Minnesota
Aaron Mertz, Grade , Plum Grove Junior High School, Rolling Meadows, Illinois
Kristy Dalrymple, Grade , Granada High School, Livermore, California
Mary Park, Grade 8, Odle Middle School, Bellevue, Washington
Alex Chernyavsky, Grade 10, Akiba Hebrew Academy, Merion, Pennsylvania
Maria Volpe, Grade 9, Highland Park Senior High School, St. Paul, Minnesota
Greg Seppertt, Grade 9, Highland Park Senior High School, St. Paul, Minnesota
Jim Gugger, Grade , Roselle Park High School, Roselle Park, New Jersey
Adam Lovas, Grade 10, Roselle Park High School, Roselle Park, New Jersey
Thomas Kuo, Grade 10, Burroughs High School, Ridgecrest, California
Dave Espenshade, Grade teacher, Olympic High School, Bremerton, Washington
Zach Dillon, Grade 7, Odle Middle School, Bellevue, Washington
Jennifer Liang, Grade 8, Odle Middle School, Bellevue, Washington
Joel Jorgensen, Grade , Redmond High School, Redmond, Oregon
Kristin Lee, Grade 9, Highland Park Senior High School, St. Paul, Minnesota
Vu Nguyen, Grade 9, Highland Park Senior High School, St. Paul, Minnesota
Joe Johnson, Grade 9, Highland Park Senior High School, St. Paul, Minnesota
Giai Tran, Grade 9, Highland Park Senior High School, St. Paul, Minnesota
Maurice Her, Grade 9, Highland Park Senior High School, St. Paul, Minnesota
My Nhia Lee, Grade 9, Highland Park Senior High School, St. Paul, Minnesota
Melissa Hackel, Grade , Granada High School, Livermore, California
Lydia Wang, Grade 9, Smoky Hill High School, Aurora, Colorado
Teneal Dollar, Grade 10, Shelby County High School, Columbiana, Alabama
Janelle Benterou, Grade 9, Granada High School, Livermore, California

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