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This Week's Finds in Mathematical Physics (Week 112)
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This Week's Finds in Mathematical Physics - Week 112
John Baez

This week I will talk about attempts to compute the entropy of a
black hole by counting its quantum states, using the spin network
approach to quantum gravity.

But first, before the going gets tough and readers start dropping like
flies, I should mention the following science fiction novel:

1) Greg Egan, Distress, HarperCollins, 1995.

I haven't been keeping up with science fiction too carefully lately, so
I'm not really the best judge. But as far as I can tell, Egan is one of
the few practitioners these days who bites off serious chunks of reality
--- who really tries to face up to the universe and its possibilies in
their full strangeness. Reality is outpacing our imagination so fast
that most attempts to imagine the future come across as miserably
unambitious. Many have a deliberately "retro" feel to them --- space
operas set in Galactic empires suspiciously similar to ancient Rome,
cyberpunk stories set in dark urban environments borrowed straight from
film noire, complete with cynical voiceovers... is science fiction
doomed to be an essentially *nostalgic* form of literature?

Perhaps we are becoming too wise, having seen how our wildest
imaginations of the future always fall short of the reality, blindly
extrapolating the current trends while missing out on the really
interesting twists. But still, science fiction writers have to try to
imagine the unimaginable, right? If they don't, who will?

But how do we *dare* imagine what things will be like in, say, a
century, or a millenium? Vernor Vinge gave apt expression to this
problem in his novel featuring the marooned survivors of a "singularity"
at which the rate of technological advance became, momentarily,
*infinite*, and most of civilization inexplicably... disappeared. Those
who failed to catch the bus were left wondering just where it went.
Somewhere unimaginable, that's all they know.

"Distress" doesn't look too far ahead, just to 2053. Asexuality is
catching on bigtime... as are the "ultramale" and "ultrafemale" options,
for those who don't like this gender ambiguity business. Voluntary
Autists are playing around with eliminating empathy. And some scary
radical secessionists are redoing their genetic code entirely, replacing
good old ATCG by base pairs of their own devising. Fundamental physics,
thank god, has little new to offer in the way of new technology. For
decades, it's drifted off introspectively into more and more abstract
and mathematical theories, with few new experiments to guide it. But
this is the year of the Einstein Centenary Conference! Nobel laureate
Violet Masala will unveil her new work on a Theory of Everything. And
rumors have it that she may have finally cracked the problem, and found
--- yes, that's right --- the final, correct and true theory of physics.

As science reporter Andrew Worth tries to bone up for his interviews
with Masala, he finds it's not so easy to follow the details of the
various "All-Topology Models" that have been proposed to explain the
10-dimensionality of spacetime in the Standard Unified Field Theory. In
one of the most realistic passages of imagined mathematical prose I've
ever seen in science fiction, he reads "At least two conflicting
generalized measures can be applied to T, the space of all topological
spaces with countable basis. Perrini's measure [Perrini, 2012] and
Saupe's measure [Saupe, 2017] are both defined for all bounded subsets
of T, and are equivalent when restricted to M - the space of
n-dimensional paracompact Hausdorff manifolds - but they yield
contradictory results for sets of more exotic spaces. However, the
physical significance (if any) of this discrepancy remains obscure...."

But, being a hardy soul and a good reporter, Worth is eventually able to
explain to us readers what's at stake here, and *why* Masala's new work
has everyone abuzz. But that's really just the beginning. For in
addition to this respectable work on All-Topology Models, there is a lot
of somewhat cranky stuff going on in "anthrocosmology", involving
sophisticated and twisted offshoots of the anthropic principle. Some
argue that when the correct Theory of Everything is found, a kind of
cosmic self-referential feedback loop will be closed. And then there's
no telling *what* will happen!

Well, I won't give away any more. It's fun: it made me want to run out
and do a lot more mathematical physics. And it raises a lot of deep
issues. At the end it gets a bit too "action-packed" for my taste, but
then, my idea of excitement is lying in bed thinking about n-categories.

Now for the black holes.

In "week112", I left off with a puzzle. In a quantum theory of gravity,
the entropy of a black hole should be the logarithm of the number of its
microstates. This should be proportional to the area of the event
horizon. But what *are* the microstates? String theory has one answer
to this, but I'll focus on the loop representation of quantum gravity.
This approach to quantum gravity is very geometrical, which suggests
thinking of the black hole microstates as "quantum geometries" of the
black hole event horizon. But how are these related to the description
of the geometry of the surrounding space in terms of spin networks?

Starting in 1995, Smolin, Krasnov, and Rovelli proposed some answers to
these puzzles, which I have already mentioned in "week56", "week57", and
"week87". The ideas I'm going to talk about now are a further
development of this earlier work, but instead of presenting everything
historically, I'll just present the picture as I see it now. For more
details, try the following paper:

2) Abhay Ashtekar, John Baez, Alejandro Corichi and Kirill Krasnov,
Quantum geometry and black hole entropy, preprint available as

This is a summary of what will eventually be a longer paper with two
parts, one on the "black hole sector" of classical general relativity,
and one on the quantization of this sector. Let me first say a bit
about the classical aspects, and then the quantum aspects.

One way to get a quantum theory of a black hole is to figure out what a
black hole is classically, get some phase space of classical states, and
then quantize *that*. For this, we need some way of saying which
solutions of general relativity correspond to black holes. This is
actually not so easy. The characteristic property of a black hole is
the presence of an event horizon --- a surface such that once you pass
it you can never get back out without going faster than light. This
makes it tempting to find "boundary conditions" which say "this surface
is an event horizon", and use those to pick out solutions corresponding
to black holes.

But the event horizon is not a local concept. That is, you can't tell
just by looking at a small patch of spacetime if it has an event horizon
in it, since your ability to "eventually get back out" after crossing a
surface depends on what happens to the geometry of spacetime in the
future. This is bad, technically speaking. It's a royal pain to deal
with nonlocal boundary conditions, especially boundary conditions that
depend on *solving the equations of motion to see what's going to happen
in the future just to see if the boundary conditions hold*.

Luckily, there is a purely local concept which is a reasonable
substitute for the concept of event horizon, namely the concept of
"outer marginally trapped surface". This is a bit technical --- and my
speciality is not this classical general relativity stuff, just the
quantum side of things, so I'm no expert on it! --- but basically it
works like this.

First consider an ordinary sphere in ordinary flat space. Imagine light
being emitted outwards, the rays coming out normal to the surface of the
sphere. Clearly the cross-section of each little imagined circular ray
will *expand* as it emanates outwards. This is measured quantitatively
in general relativity by a quantity called... the expansion parameter!

Now suppose your sphere surrounds a spherically symmetric black hole.
If the sphere is huge compared to the size of the black hole, the above
picture is still pretty accurate, since the light leaving the sphere is
very far from the black hole, and gravitational effects are small. But
now imagine shrinking the sphere, making its radius closer and closer to
the Schwarzschild radius (the radius of the event horizon). When the
sphere is just a little bigger than the Schwarzschild radius, the
expansion of light rays going out from the sphere is very small. This
might seem paradoxical --- how can the outgoing light rays not expand?
But remember, spacetime is seriously warped near the event horizon, so
your usual flat spacetime intuitions no longer apply. As we approach
the event horizon itself, the expansion parameter goes to zero!

That's roughly the definition of an "outer marginally trapped surface".
A more mathematical but still rough definition is: "an outer marginally
trapped surface is the boundary S of some region of space such that the
expansion of the outgoing family of null geodesics normal to S is
everywhere less than or equal to zero."

We require that our space have some sphere S in it which is an outer
marginally trapped surface. We also require other boundary conditions
to hold on this surface. I won't explain them in detail. Instead, I'll
say two important extra features they have: they say the black hole is
nonrotating, and they disallow gravitational waves falling into S. The
first condition here is a simplifying assumption: we are only studying
black holes of zero angular momentum in this paper! The second
condition is only meant to hold for the time during which we are
studying the black hole. It does not rule out gravitational waves far
from the black hole, waves that might *eventually* hit the black hole.
These should not affect the entropy calculation.

Now, in addition to their physical significance, the boundary conditions
we use also have an interesting *mathematical* meaning. Like most other
field theories, general relativity is defined by an action principle,
meaning roughly that one integrates some quantity called the Lagrangian
over spacetime to get an "action", and finds solutions of the field
equations by looking for minima of this action. But when one studies
field theories on a region with boundary, and imposes boundary
conditions, one often needs to "add an extra boundary term to the
action" --- some sort of integral over the boundary --- to get things to
work out right. There is a whole yoga of finding the right boundary
term to go along with the boundary conditions... an arcane little art...
just one of those things theoretical physicists do, that for some reason
never find their way into the popular press.

But in this case the boundary term is all-important, because it's...


(Yes, I can see people world-wide, peering into their screens, thinking
"Eh? Am I supposed to remember what that is? What's he getting so
excited about now?" And a few cognoscenti thinking "Oh, *now* I get it.
All this fussing about boundary conditions was just an elaborate ruse to
get a topological quantum field theory on the event horizon!")

So far we've been studying general relativity in honest 4-dimensional
spacetime. Chern-Simons theory is a closely related field theory one
dimension down, in 3-dimensional spacetime. As time passes, the surface
of the black hole traces out a 3-dimensional submanifold of our
4-dimensional spacetime. When we quantize our classical theory of
gravity with our chosen boundary conditions, the Chern-Simons term will
give rise to a "Chern-Simons field theory" living on the surface of the
black hole. This field theory will describe the geometry of the surface
of the black hole, and how it changes as time passes.

Well, let's not just talk about it, let's do it! We quantize our theory
using standard spin network techniques *outside* the black hole, and
Chern-Simons theory *on the event horizon*, and here is what we get.
States look like this. Outside the black hole, they are described by
spin networks (see "week110"). The spin network edges are labelled by
spins j = 0, 1/2, 1, and so on. Spin network edges can puncture the
black hole surface, giving it area. Each spin-j edge contributes
an area proportional to sqrt(j(j+1)). The total area is the sum of
these contributions.

Any choice of punctures labelled by spins determines a Hilbert space of
states for Chern-Simons theory. States in this space describe the
intrinsic curvature of the black hole surface. The curvature is zero
except at the punctures, so that *classically*, near any puncture, you
can visualize the surface as a cone with its tip at the puncture. The
curvature is concentrated at the tip. At the *quantum* level, where the
puncture is labelled with a spin j, the curvature at the puncture is
described by a number j_z ranging -j to j in integer steps.

Now we ask the following question: "given a black hole whose area is
within epsilon of A, what is the logarithm of the number of microstates
compatible with this area?" This should be the entropy of the black
hole. To figure it out, first we work out all the ways to label
punctures by spins j so that the total area comes within epsilon of A.
For any way to do this, we then count the allowed ways to pick numbers
j_z describing the intrinsic curvature of the black hole surface. Then
we sum these up and take the logarithm.

That's roughly what we do, anyway, and for black holes much bigger than
the Planck scale we find that the entropy is proportional to the area.
How does this compare with the result of Bekenstein and Hawking,
described in "week111"? Remember, they computed that

S = A/4

where S is the entropy and A is the area, measured in units where c =
hbar = G = k = 1. What we get is

S = (ln 2 / 4 pi gamma sqrt(3)) A

To compare these results, you need to know what is that mysterious
"gamma" factor in the second equation! It's called the Immirzi
parameter, since it was first discovered by Giorgio Immirzi in the
following paper:

3) Giorgio Immirzi, Quantum gravity and Regge calculus, in
Nucl. Phys. Proc. Suppl. 57 (1997) 65-72, preprint available as

It's an annoying unavoidable arbitrary dimensionless parameter that
appears in the loop representation, which nobody had noticed until
Immirzi came along --- people had been unwittingly setting it to a
particular value for no good reason. It's still rather mysterious. But
it works a bit like this. In ordinary quantum mechanics we turn the
position q into an operator, namely multiplication by x, and also turn
the momentum p into an operator, namely -i d/dx. The important thing is
the canonical commutation relations: pq - qp = -i. But we could also
get the canonical commutation relations to hold by defining

p = -i gamma d/dx
q = x/gamma

since the gammas cancel out! In this case, putting in a gamma factor
doesn't affect the physics. One gets "equivalent representations of the
canonical commutation relations". In the loop representation, however,
the analogous trick *does* affect the physics --- different choices of
the Immirzi parameter give different physics! For more details try:

4) Carlo Rovelli and Thomas Thiemann, The Immirzi parameter in quantum
general relativity, preprint available as gr-qc/9705059.

How does the Immirzi parameter affect the physics? It *determines the
quantization of area*. You may notice how I keep saying "each spin-j
edge of a spin network contributes an area proportional to sqrt(j(j+1))
to any surface it punctures"... without ever saying what the constant
of proportionality is! Well, the constant is

8 pi gamma

Before the Immirzi parameter was noticed, everyone went around saying
the constant was 1. (As for the factor of 8pi, I'm no good at these
things, but apparently at least some people were getting that wrong,
too!) Now Krasnov claims to have gotten these damned factors
straightened out once and for all:

5) Kirill Krasnov, On the constant that fixes the area spectrum in
canonical quantum gravity, preprint available as gr-qc/9709058.

So: it seems we can't determine the constant of proportionality in the
entropy-area relation, because of this arbitrariness in the Immirzi
parameter. But we can, of course, use the Bekenstein-Hawking formula
together with our formula for black hole entropy to determine gamma,

gamma = ln(2) / sqrt(3) pi

This may seem like cheating, but right now it's the best we can do. All
we can say is this: we have a theory of the microstates of a black hole,
which predicts that entropy is proportional to area for largish black
holes, and which taken together with the Bekenstein-Hawking calculation
allows us to determine the Immirzi parameter.

What do the funny constants in the formula

S = (ln 2 / 4 pi gamma sqrt(3)) A

mean? It's actually simple. The states that contribute most to the
entropy of a black hole are those where nearly all spin network edges
puncturing its surface are labelled by spin 1/2. Each spin-1/2 puncture
can have either j_z = 1/2 or j_z = -1/2, so it contributes ln(2) to the
entropy. On the other hand, each spin-1/2 edge contributes 4 pi gamma
sqrt(3) to the area of the black hole. Just to be dramatic, we can call
ln 2 the "quantum of entropy" since it's the entropy (or information)
contained in a single bit. Similarly, we can call 4 pi gamma sqrt(3)
the "quantum of area" since it's the area contributed by a spin-1/2
edge. These terms are a bit misleading since neither entropy nor area
need come in *integral* multiples of this minimal amount. But anyway,
we have

S = (quantum of entropy / quantum of area) A

What next? Well, one thing is to try to use these ideas to study
Hawking radiation. That's hard, because we don't understand
*Hamiltonians* very well in quantum gravity, but Krasnov has made some

6) Kirill Krasnov, Quantum geometry and thermal radiation from black holes,
preprint available as gr-qc/9710006.

Let me just quote the abstract:

"A quantum mechanical description of black hole states proposed recently
within the approach known as loop quantum gravity is used to study the
radiation spectrum of a Schwarzschild black hole. We assume the
existence of a Hamiltonian operator causing transitions between
different quantum states of the black hole and use Fermi's golden rule
to find the emission line intensities. Under certain assumptions on the
Hamiltonian we find that, although the emission spectrum consists of
distinct lines, the curve enveloping the spectrum is close to the Planck
thermal distribution with temperature given by the thermodynamical
temperature of the black hole as defined by the derivative of the
entropy with respect to the black hole mass. We discuss possible
implications of this result for the issue of the Immirzi gamma-ambiguity
in loop quantum gravity."

This is interesting, because Bekenstein and Mukhanov have recently
noted that if the area of a quantum black hole is quantized
in *evenly spaced steps*, there will be large deviations from the Planck
distribution of thermal radiation:

7) Jacob D. Bekenstein and V. F. Mukhanov, Spectroscopy of the quantum
black hole, preprint available as gr-qc/9505012.

However, in the loop representation the area is not quantized in evenly
spaced steps: the area A can be any sum of quantities like 8 pi gamma
sqrt(j(j+1)), and such sums become very densely packed for large A.

Let me conclude with a few technical comments about how Chern-Simons
theory shows up here. For a long time I've been studying the "ladder of
dimensions" relating field theories in dimensions 2, 3, and 4, in part
because this gives some clues as to how n-categories are related to
topological quantum field theory, and in part because it relates quantum
gravity in spacetime dimension 4, which is mysterious, to Chern-Simons
theory in spacetime dimension 3, which is well-understood. It's neat
that one can now use this ladder to study black hole entropy. It's
worth comparing Carlip's calculation of black hole entropy in spacetime
dimension 3 using a 2-dimensional field theory (the Wess-Zumino-Witten
model) on the surface traced out by the black hole event horizon --- see
"week41". Both the theories we use and those Carlip uses, are all part
of the same big ladder of theories! Something interesting is going on

But there's a twist in our calculation which really took me by surprise.
We do not use SU(2) Chern-Simons theory on the black hole surface, we
use U(1) Chern-Simons theory! The reason is simple. The boundary
conditions we use, which say the black hole surface is "marginally outer
trapped", also say that its extrinsic curvature is zero. Thus the
curvature tensor reduces, at the black hole surface, to the intrinsic
curvature. Curvature on a 3-dimensional space is so(3)-valued, but the
intrinsic curvature on the surface S is so(2)-valued. Since so(3) =
su(2), general relativity has a lot to do with SU(2) gauge theory. But
since so(2) = u(1), the field theory on the black hole surface can be
thought of as a U(1) gauge theory.

(Experts will know that U(1) is a subgroup of SU(2) and this is why we
look at all values of j_z going from -j to j: we are decomposing
representations of SU(2) into representations of this U(1) subgroup.)

Now U(1) Chern-Simons theory is a lot less exciting than SU(2)
Chern-Simons theory so mathematically this is a bit of a disappointment.
But U(1) Chern-Simons theory is not utterly boring. When we are
studying U(1) Chern-Simons theory on a punctured surface, we are
studying flat U(1) connections modulo gauge transformations. The space
of these is called a "Jacobian variety". When we quantize U(1)
Chern-Simons theory using geometric quantization, we are looking for
holomorphic sections of a certain line bundle on this Jacobian variety.
These are called "theta functions". Theta functions have been
intensively studied by string theorists and number theorists, who use
them do all sorts of wonderful things beyond my ken. All I know about
theta functions can be found in the beginning of the following two

8) Jun-ichi Igusa, Theta Functions, Springer-Verlag, Berlin, 1972.

9) David Mumford, Tata Lectures on Theta, 3 volumes, Birkhauser, Boston,

Theta functions are nice, so it's fun to see them describing states of a
quantum black hole!

Previous issues of "This Week's Finds" and other expository articles on
mathematics and physics, as well as some of my research papers, can be
obtained at

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