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Topic: 0 The Empty Number; its purpose is to set bases
Replies: 46   Last Post: Sep 24, 2017 8:28 AM

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 FromTheRafters Posts: 248 Registered: 12/20/15
Re: 0 The Empty Number; its purpose is to set bases
Posted: Sep 22, 2017 8:17 AM

Conway presented the following explanation :
> On Thursday, September 21, 2017 at 9:48:42 PM UTC-5, Dan Christensen wrote:
>> On Thursday, September 21, 2017 at 10:01:10 PM UTC-4, Conway wrote:
>>> On Thursday, September 21, 2017 at 8:03:00 PM UTC-5, FromTheRafters wrote:
>>>> Conway brought next idea :
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Place is important.

>>>>>
>>>>> I agree...."Place" is important....Place is a matter of space....zero is
>>>>> place...zero is space...

>>>>
>>>> Important for representations only, not for the number in mind.
>>>> Mathematics is filled with abstractions, a 'number' can be expressed in
>>>> many ways. You seem to want to imbue numbers with two attributes each
>>>> and "do math" with them while avoiding a perceived problem with zero as
>>>> it stands.
>>>>
>>>> To me, zero is not a problem and limits are just another representation
>>>> of a number, not only a representation of (a method for) an
>>>> approximation of a number.
>>>>
>>>> If it ain't broke, don't fix it.

>>>
>>> Mmmh....I suppose I can agree with you here....actually I have talked to
>>> many Phd's in this matter.....they have said about as much.....I however do
>>> believe that it's broke....

>>
>>
>> Yes, all those cars exploding, planes crashing and boats sinking because
>> scientists and engineers simply don't understand that "0(as space) = 1 (as
>> space)."
>>
>>
>> Dan
>>
>> Visit my Math Blog at http://www.dcproof.wordpress.com

>
> Dan...
>
> There was a time we thought the world was flat...

Little did they suspect that they were correct -- the Earth is flat but
the 'space' it occupies is curved, distorted by the presence of its
great mass. An object in a perfect Earth orbit is traveling in a
'straight' line through 'space' and forever parallel to 'straight'
lines the Earth's surface.

--
For large enough (or non Euclidean) values of 'straight' :)

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