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Re: Why do we need those real non-constructible numbers?
Posted: Nov 14, 2017 1:33 PM
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On Monday, 13 November 2017 11:30:19 UTC-5, bassam king karzeddin wrote:


> So, continuity doesn't exist because infinity doesn't exist either, and the assumption of existence of continuity was a total brain fart, but an artificial deliberate continuity was adopted by fabricating those (Epsilon-Delta) Distances just for practical needs which aren't truly any mathematics for sure

Epsilonics are just a ruse from what's really going on: the inability of anyone before me to formulate a rigorous calculus.

You see, if you try to emulate the new calculus using the bogus mainstream formulation, you get for f(x)=x^2:

f'(x) = lim_{h -> 0} 2x + Q(h) where Q(h) = h

In the bogus calculus Q(h) is meaningless bullshit, but let's set it to zero as we can do in the rigorous new calculus, then f'(x)=2x+h = 2x+0 = 2x.

Setting h=0 is EQUIVALENT to finding the limit!

But that is banned terminology. You can say things like:

i. The value approached by the finite differences is the derivative/limit.
ii. As the distance is made arbitrarily small between f(x) and L, then the distance between x and c (point of tangency) also gets close to 0.
iii. 0<|x-c|<delta => |f(x)-L|<epsilon where epsilon>0 and delta>0. This is required just in case the orangutans need to have a hole at c.

ad nauseum...

At the end of the day, all that is being said is that setting h=0 produces the limit. (iii) is often misunderstood especially by morons on the internet as being a definition, but it is nothing of the sort. It's merely a "verifinition",
that is, a restatement of what is actually being done: showing that L is the right guess. It's very circular and rigour has nothing to do with it.

> BKK




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