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RE: Calculus in 9th grade and such, was Re: Algebra Tiles
Posted:
Feb 9, 2002 6:47 PM


Mea culpa, mea culpa.
I have unsuscribed.
Have a good day.
David
Original Message From: ownermathedcc@mathforum.org [mailto://ownermathedcc@mathforum.org]On Behalf Of Lillie Crowley Sent: 09 February 2002 18:12 To: mrobison@voyager.net Cc: raypublk@san.rr.com; mathedcc@mathforum.com Subject: Re: Calculus in 9th grade and such, was Re: Algebra Tiles
Mike's first point (the one about this being a community college mathematics list) is one that all readers herein should note. The list was conceived as a forum for discussion of matters that concern community college mathematics instruction; some seem to have lost sight of this. All the peripheral issues are interrelated and many are interesting. However, we at community colleges cannot be held responsible for what happens to students before they get to us; our job is to deal with what we've got, which in many cases means we deal with unmotivated, illprepared and "damaged", students. (Not all, mind you, but lots of them)
Lillie
Original Message From: Mike Robison <mrobison@voyager.net> To: raypublk@san.rr.com Date: Sat, 09 Feb 2002 11:14:15 0500 Subject: Calculus in 9th grade and such, was Re: Algebra Tiles
RayM wrote:
> Anyway, I'm left with a sense that too much of the problem definition on > this list is how to band aid situations that never should have come to be > and far too little about how to change the system to do it right in the > first place. I can think of two valid reasons for that:
First, the focus of this list is teaching mathematics in community colleges, not restructuring k12 education in the United States. While I have considerable interest in the second topic, it is not the main purpose of the list, nor is it within any of our authority.
Second, while I strongly believe that the teacher and the curriculum are important, no matter what teachers do, relatively few students are going to be ready for study of calculus, as currently conceived, by 9th grade. Even in the 1950's, that didn't happen, to say the least. Some kids, apparently including yours, simply learn faster.
Tying the two points together, I would like to ask, as I do periodically, that all of you, particularly in Community colleges, be receptive to the highly capable and very young student who wants to be in your class. Even remedial college classes tend to have a faster pace than the k12 presentation of the same material. Since the standard k12 presentation may be stifling for highly capable students, college is an important option for some of them.
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