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Andre TOOM

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Re: parent's messages
Posted: Jan 26, 1997 8:35 AM
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Toom had written:
> > Teachers who cannot teach solving problems will have
> > to choose between teaching athletics and retirement.
> > They will be replaced by immigrants from Russia.
> >

On Sun, 26 Jan 1997, Tad Watanabe answered:
> So, what does a teacher need to know and be able to do to
> teach their students so that they can meet these goals?


Tad, you asked some very important questions, but I have a rule:
never answer more that one question at once, so I concentrate on the
question cited above. Even this question is tremendous: to answer it
more or less completely, I would have to write a book about teaching.
I have no time for this now. I only want to say that good teaching
is a tradition and cannot be achieved by a single teacher.
Tradition of good teaching mathematics is conspucious by its
absense in USA. To explain this in detail, I would need to
comment several videos of math lessons made in several countries.
(I tried to describe my manner of teaching word problems in a
paper `In defense of word problems' which is available on request.)
It is clear to me that the Russian tradition of teaching mathematics
is much better than American, but Russia is not an exception.
In San Diego I saw a video of a Japanese math lesson and it was
pleasant for me to see how similar to Russian lessons it was.
Not because Russia influenced Japan or vice versa, but because
both are based on the normal relations: students respect the
teacher, the teacher cares about best interests of students.
Let me mention a small detail which seems not to have been
verbalized by the people who made TIMSS: when the class starts,
the Japanese students greet the teacher by standing up.
Same in Russia. It is important because it reminds the students
that starting this moment they have special duties: to give
up everything else, to concentrate on the subject matter
and to respect the teacher. When I enter the class in my
university, students sit in relaxed manner, and my entrance
marks nothing for them. I need to take special measures
to bring them into a working condition. I can do it because
I am an especially competent teacher, but many American
teachers cannot, and their students remain disrespectful
throughout the class. It is impossible to teach productively
students who do not respect you.
Or take the typical American awe for the non-intellectualism:
a student who does not care about abstractions
is a sacred cow for American educators: all the pedagogy,
all the syllabuses, all the textbooks are written
primarily for that student to the neglect of others.

Andre Toom
Department of Mathematics toom@the-college.iwctx.edu
University of the Incarnate Word Tel. 210-646-0500 (h)
4301 Broadway 210-829-3170 (o)
San Antonio, Texas 78209-6318 Fax 210-829-3153






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