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 Greg Goodknight Posts: 1,233 Registered: 12/6/04
Posted: Nov 14, 2000 8:38 PM

-----Original Message-----
From: Gerald Von Korff <vonkoent@cloudnet.com>

>Count everyone's votes!!! Count them correctly: our democracy depends
>upon it.

How many times should each vote be counted? Every Florida precinct has had
at least two full counts; some have already been counted four times.

How has it been proven that the hand count is more accurate than the machine
count when the vote is contained on a paper punch card with no particular
features? How many hours can counters be on the job without their error rate
increasing? What is the guarantee that the physical state of the card is
substantially the same as the voter left it after the fourth count? What is
more important, that the card be tallied as the voter left it, or should the
manual recount personnel be tasked with intuiting the intent of the voter
when deciding what the vote is to be?

Be careful what you ask for; you may get it. Whoever wins will have a very
difficult (and probably short) time in office.

-Greg

PS The only things we can be sure of is that there is one Florida election
supervisor whose name is now Mudd, their "butterfly ballot" will be a Jay
Leno staple for some time to come and there will be a lot of new voting
machines sold in the next two years.

>
>Whoever wins our national election should enter office as the winner by
>nation will struggle for the next four years with a president burdened
>by a lack of legitimacy. In virtually every state, when an election is
>close, a recount is performed to determine the actual count as nearly as
>possible. that's because in America, the winner is the person who got
>the most vote, not the winner of the party who controls the courts, the
>secretary of state, the governor or the attorney general. It is the
>people's votes which should be counted.
>
>An accurate recount is taken in close elections as a matter of course.
>The right to have votes counted accurately in close elections is nothing
>new or special: it is a basic fundamental principle of our democracy
>observed in local and state elections. In Minnesota, we frequently have
>recounts in close elections. Noone every questions that right: the
>idea that someone should not request a recount because they are sore
>losers is spurious. The purpose of the recount is to find out who won
>the election: to find out the will of the people.
>
>It is said that we cannot afford to count the ballots accurately,
>because international markets will suffer. But the reverse is true.
>Our national standing will withstand an extra week of recounting: but
>it will not withstand four years of public belief that the election has
>been stolen.
>
>How can anyone be harmed by counting everyone's votes accurately and
>fairly. How can our democracy be but damaged by the perception that
>tens of thousands of votes have been miscounted or thrown out because a
>little piece of paper was hanging out of a hole caused a computer to
>rejected a ballot: that tens of thousands of votes have been thrown out
>simply because a hole was not accurately punched.
>
>Count all the votes. Count them accurately and fairly. Pass it on.
>
>
>--
>Connie and Jerry Von Korff
>
>

Date Subject Author
11/14/00 Gerald Von Korff
11/14/00 Greg Goodknight
11/15/00 Victor Steinbok
11/15/00 karen jones
11/15/00 Michael Paul Goldenberg
11/15/00 Victor Steinbok
11/15/00 Jody Underwood
11/15/00 Michael Paul Goldenberg
11/15/00 Jody Underwood
11/15/00 Ed Wall
11/15/00 Greg Goodknight
11/15/00 Domenico Rosa