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Topic: "Representative sampling?"
Replies: 10   Last Post: Nov 4, 2000 2:57 PM

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 Rich Ulrich Posts: 1,234 Registered: 12/6/04
Re: "Representative sampling?"
Posted: Nov 2, 2000 2:44 PM

On Thu, 02 Nov 2000 17:44:08 GMT, Ross J. Micheals
<dnxthx@my-deja.com> wrote:

> Is there a statistical definition of "representative sampling?"

No. It is more broadly *logical* than statistical. My notion right
this minute is, it is most clearly defined by its negation. That is,
if you avoid the traps of all potential non-representative-ness,
then you may have representative samples.

Someone just has to find a single way that your system really messes
up, and that could show that your samples are not representative, no
matter how many other tests your selection system may have passed.

> That is,
> is there a way to show that a sampling strategy will yield (within some
> tolerance) a sample that is "representative" of the population?

Sure, you should be able to draw prospective confidence limits
for different schemes. Is that all you are asking?

Let me point to an obscure problem. When you are drawing a set of
random samples, should you *insist* that extreme relationships of one
sort and another be present, at least occasionally? And, is there a
difference in the requirement if you are drawing ONE sample, as
opposed to drawing a large sequence of samples?

- I have a computer program for doing Random Assignment to trials,
which produces your 100 (or 500 or however many)
IDs and Groups, to be used in consecutive order.
A runs-test is included in the output.

I expect that if you produce a random assignment
with your chosen 'seed number', you might be unhappy
if one group got the assignment 8 times in a row; and the like.
So, if the program is extreme according to the runs-test, you can try
another seed and get another list. Then you use that one if you like
it better.

- BUT you should see: A single selection will look 'representative.'
A million selections done like this will be lacking, grossly, in
Runs. Does that matter? - well, it might.

--
Rich Ulrich, wpilib@pitt.edu
http://www.pitt.edu/~wpilib/index.html

Date Subject Author
11/2/00 Ross J. Micheals
11/2/00 Jerry Dallal
11/2/00 Rich Ulrich
11/2/00 Chris C
11/2/00 Thomas Gatliffe
11/3/00 Elliot Cramer
11/3/00 Jerry Dallal
11/3/00 J Dumais
11/3/00 Ross J. Micheals
11/4/00 robertd@athenesoft.com