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Topic: What is infinity minus one?
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 Tracy Poff Posts: 12 Registered: 12/13/04
Re: What is infinity minus one?
Posted: Oct 11, 2004 8:50 PM

Tim Brauch wrote:
> g_vagor@hotmail.com (Beston Kader) wrote in news://vdfob6vb0f6a@legacy:
>
>

>>
>>infinity = 1/0 ---> 1=0*infinity

>
>
> A slight wave of the hand here, no? For surely you are not saying
> 0*infinity is 1, I could understand saying it is zero, I could understand
> saying it is infinity. But surely not one.
>
>
> infinity = 2/0 ---> 2 = 0*infinity = 1 ---> 2 = 1 ---> 0 = 1
>
> Uh oh.
>
>

>>infinity - 1 = infinity-0*infinity = infinity(1-0) = infinity
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>> --->
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>>infinity - 1 = infinity
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>>

>
>
> Perhaps this will work better...
>
> 1 + 2 + 3 + 4 + 5 + 6 +.... tends towards infinity
>
> Subtracting 1 gives
>
> 1 - 1 + 2 + 3 + 4 + 5 + 6 + .... = 2 + 3 + 4 + 5 + 6 + ...
>
> which also tends towards infinity. By this logic, infinity less any finite
> number is still infinite. And infinity - infinity is not defined. (You
> know why?)
>
> - Tim
>

Is this because a + (-a) = 0 is defined on the set of reals, and
infinity is nonreal?

This question was posed to my calc teacher in high school when
discussing indeterminate forms, and she replied (in essence) that it was
a magical thing that didn't have a reason, while I disagreed.

Similarly, if my reasoning is correct, this would mean that 1*infinity
is undefined, since that is defined as the multiplicative identity
property of the reals. Is this correct?

Tracy Poff

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