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The Scarlet Manuka

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Re: Is zero an approximation?
Posted: Dec 3, 2001 10:50 PM
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"Paul Lutus" <nospam@nosite.zzz> wrote in message
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> "The Scarlet Manuka" <sacha@maths.uwa.edu.au> wrote in message
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> > > A default
> > > definition is, ipso facto, a single definition.

> >
> > Only if it is to be universally applied. I see no reason why
> > a default may not have limited scope.

>
> This begs the question of the meaning of "default definition," in a way
> calculated to generate heat, not light.


Why? As I've said many times now, it's quite reasonable to
give a default number system for a particular subject.
Then "default definition" resolves to a context-dependent
number system. This poses no problems, unless you want to
know what the default is without specifying a context -
in which case the answer is obviously that there is none.

> > Let's restore some context. "Such a number system" refers to
> > the specific phrase, "the number system that permits ordinary
> > arithmetic operations". My claim is that there are many such
> > number systems, and therefore one cannot speak of "the number
> > system that permits ordinary arithmetic operations", as if
> > there was only one, any more than one can speak of "the positive
> > integer less than 10", because that does not specify a single
> > integer.

> No default. End of story.

Set a default integer, say 2. We still can't speak of "the
positive integer less than 10". As I said in the bit you
discarded, if you have a non-singleton set, making one of
its elements the default doesn't change the set to a
singleton.

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The Scarlet Manuka







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