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Topic: Which Polynomial?
Replies: 28   Last Post: Jul 27, 2006 3:13 PM

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 Victor Steinbok Posts: 1,580 Registered: 12/3/04
Re: Which Polynomial?
Posted: Jul 30, 2005 2:51 PM

At 01:46 PM 7/30/2005, Louis A. Talman wrote:

>On Jul 30, 2005, at 10:02 AM, Kirby Urner wrote:
>

>> We're talking about phi ('fie' -- not 'pi' and not 'fee').
>
>Actually, a scholar in classics once told me that it's 'fee'--and ought to
>be 'pee' rather than 'pie'.

Well, if we are going to split hairs, it's "phee", but who cares!

Back to the polynomial, there are two contexts where it arises. First is
the classical derivation of the Golden Mean, as Kirby points out. But there
is another pseudo-classical use. The two roots (actually, halves of the two
roots, if I recall correctly) generate the Fibonacci sequence.

I'll leave you with this point as an exercise.

But back to Kirby's question, my answer would simple. We could just as well
take another polynomial to establish some sort of a special or classical
relationship. The question really should be, "How is the application of
this polynomial important to the student's learning progress?" The issue
should not be of the importance of the particular piece in the *history* of
mathematics, but its importance in the learning process. There are no
irreplaceable parts in the curriculum, but many of the ideas we want
students to learn may well be irreplaceable. The trouble is, we cannot
agree on which ideas these are.

Kirby, if you want to use a particular polynomial as the cornerstone of
some part of the curriculum, more power to you. But it does not mean that

VS-)

Date Subject Author
7/30/05 Kirby Urner
7/30/05 talmanl@mscd.edu
7/30/05 Victor Steinbok
7/30/05 Kirby Urner
7/31/05 Victor Steinbok
7/31/05 Kirby Urner
7/31/05 luciepoirier
7/31/05 Kirby Urner
7/31/05 luciepoirier
7/31/05 Victor Steinbok
8/1/05 Kirby Urner
8/1/05 Kirby Urner
8/1/05 talmanl@mscd.edu
8/2/05 Wayne Bishop
8/2/05 Victor Steinbok
8/2/05 Wayne Bishop
8/2/05 Victor Steinbok
8/4/05 luciepoirier
8/2/05 talmanl@mscd.edu
8/2/05 Kirby Urner
7/30/05 Pam
7/30/05 talmanl@mscd.edu
7/31/05 luciepoirier
7/30/05 Kirby Urner
7/31/05 Victor Steinbok
7/31/05 Kirby Urner
9/20/05 Kirby Urner
3/14/06 Kirby Urner
7/27/06 Kirby Urner