The Math Forum



Search All of the Math Forum:

Views expressed in these public forums are not endorsed by NCTM or The Math Forum.


Math Forum » Discussions » Education » math-teach

Topic: Case Against Computers K-13
Replies: 119   Last Post: May 28, 2007 12:45 PM

Advanced Search

Back to Topic List Back to Topic List Jump to Tree View Jump to Tree View   Messages: [ Previous | Next ]
Kirby Urner

Posts: 4,713
Registered: 12/6/04
Re: Case Against Computers K-13
Posted: Mar 9, 2006 6:23 PM
  Click to see the message monospaced in plain text Plain Text   Click to reply to this topic Reply

> Anti-Intellectual Appeal
>
> Computers reinforce the fascination with gadgetry, as
> opposed to intellect, that is endemic in American
> popular culture. As pointed out by Brian Simpson,
> former education advisor to IBM in the United
> Kingdom,


Note implicit value judgment that "fascination with gadgetry" is something to be ashamed of (imagine: "opposed to intellect" -- interesting spin), plus the weasel word "endemic" -- doesn't mean the same as "epidemic" but is closer to "indigenous" or "native" (so why should we be ashamed of ourselves again?).

> Technological solutions to educational problems often
> have a seductive appeal, promising to make education
> easier and more enjoyable than ever before. In the
> past, extravagant claims have been made for teaching
> machines, educational television, language
> laboratories, and even such improbable, esoteric
> phenomena as sleep learning and learning under
> music-induced hypnosis. [15, p. 84]


Very clever to list educational television on a par with music-induced hypnosis. As if Animal Planet, Discovery Channel, Sesame Street, were just these marginal paranormal phenomena that only a few people believed in.

> There is a long history of people wanting and
> expecting technology to transform education. It has
> been over 70 years since the following prediction was
> made by a famous American:


Note that education has been transformed many times and in many fields. Revolutions have been aplenty. This author presumes a static background of certainty, when actually that's not what we've been experiencing (just study the literature).

> I believe that the motion picture is destined to
> revolutionize our educational system and that in a
> few years it will supplant largely, if not entirely,
> the use of textbooks. -Thomas Edison, 1922 (quoted in
> Ref. 2, p. 9)


In terms of influence over the average child's mind, yes, that happened. TV put additional nails in the coffin. We're never going back to the childhood of Edison, that I can see. I could be wrong, but the TVs seem to be getting even bigger and higher rez. Anyone else here notice that?

We'll be using TV more effectively to teach a better, stronger brand of TV-savvy math, don't you worry, even if your cable network doesn't receive from our transponder. That's a local call (maybe ask for it?). It'll be a lot like the geometry you already know (Platonics, Archimedeans 'n stuff) but with some new stuff (since the ancients) thown in for good measure. I can't tell you about Big Bird's role in all this. I'm only one of a large team of architects and script writers. Many details not known.

Kirby


Date Subject Author
3/8/06
Read Case Against Computers K-13
Domenico Rosa
3/9/06
Read Re: Case Against Computers K-13
Michael Paul Goldenberg
3/9/06
Read Re: Case Against Computers K-13
Kirby Urner
3/25/06
Read Re: Case Against Computers K-13
Peter Vitale
3/26/06
Read Re: Case Against Computers K-13
Domenico Rosa
3/26/06
Read Re: Case Against Computers K-13
Richard Strausz
3/26/06
Read Re: Case Against Computers K-13
Louis Talman
3/26/06
Read Re: Case Against Computers K-13
Wayne Bishop
3/26/06
Read Wayne: Calculus and Mathematica seems to be quite alive
Richard Strausz
3/26/06
Read Re: Wayne: P.S.
Richard Strausz
3/26/06
Read Re: Wayne: P.S.
Louis Talman
3/26/06
Read Re: Wayne: P.S.
Michael Paul Goldenberg
3/26/06
Read Re: Wayne: Calculus and Mathematica seems to be quite alive
Louis Talman
3/26/06
Read Re: Wayne: Calculus and Mathematica seems to be quite alive
Michael Paul Goldenberg
3/26/06
Read Re: Wayne: Calculus and Mathematica seems to be quite alive
Wayne Bishop
3/27/06
Read Re: Wayne: Calculus and Mathematica seems to be quite alive
Wayne Bishop
3/27/06
Read Re: Wayne: Calculus and Mathematica seems to be quite alive
Michael Paul Goldenberg
3/26/06
Read Re: Case Against Computers K-13
Louis Talman
3/26/06
Read Re: Case Against Computers K-13
Haim
3/26/06
Read Re: Case Against Computers K-13
Michael Paul Goldenberg
3/26/06
Read Re: Case Against Computers K-13
Louis Talman
3/26/06
Read Re: Case Against Computers K-13
Haim
3/26/06
Read Re: Case Against Computers K-13
Louis Talman
3/27/06
Read Re: Case Against Computers K-13
Haim
3/27/06
Read Re: Case Against Computers K-13
Louis Talman
3/27/06
Read Re: Case Against Computers K-13
Wayne Bishop
3/27/06
Read Re: Case Against Computers K-13
Louis Talman
3/27/06
Read Re: Case Against Computers K-13
Greg Matheson
3/27/06
Read Re: Case Against Computers K-13
Louis Talman
3/27/06
Read Re: Case Against Computers K-13
Michael Paul Goldenberg
3/27/06
Read Re: Case Against Computers K-13
Haim
3/27/06
Read Re: Case Against Computers K-13
Michael Paul Goldenberg
3/27/06
Read Haim - a question
Richard Strausz
3/27/06
Read Re: Haim - a question
Greg Matheson
3/27/06
Read Re: Haim - a question
Haim
3/27/06
Read Re: Haim - a question
Louis Talman
3/28/06
Read Re: Haim - a question
Haim
3/28/06
Read Re: Haim - a question
Louis Talman
3/28/06
Read Re: Haim - a question
Michael Paul Goldenberg
3/28/06
Read Re: Haim - a question
Haim
3/28/06
Read Re: Haim - a question
Michael Paul Goldenberg
3/28/06
Read Re: Haim - a question
Michael Paul Goldenberg
3/28/06
Read Re: Haim - a question
Haim
3/28/06
Read Re: Haim - a question
Kirby Urner
3/28/06
Read Re: Haim - a question
Haim
3/28/06
Read Re: Haim - a question
Michael Paul Goldenberg
3/29/06
Read Re: Haim - a question
Kirby Urner
3/29/06
Read Re: Haim - a question
Michael Paul Goldenberg
3/30/06
Read Re: Haim - a question
Kirby Urner
3/29/06
Read Re: Haim - a question
Wayne Bishop
3/29/06
Read Re: Haim - a question
Michael Paul Goldenberg
3/30/06
Read Re: Haim - a question
Kirby Urner
3/28/06
Read Re: Haim - a question
Louis Talman
3/28/06
Read Re: Haim - a question
Louis Talman
3/28/06
Read Re: Haim - a question
Louis Talman
3/28/06
Read Re: Haim - a question
Haim
3/28/06
Read Re: Haim - a question
Wayne Bishop
3/28/06
Read Re: Haim - a question
Haim
3/28/06
Read Re: Haim - a question
Joshua Zucker
3/28/06
Read Re: Haim - a question
Pam
3/28/06
Read Re: Haim - a question
Louis Talman
3/28/06
Read Re: Haim - a question
Michael Paul Goldenberg
3/28/06
Read Re: Haim - a question
Haim
3/28/06
Read Re: Haim - a question
Louis Talman
3/28/06
Read Re: Haim - a question
Michael Paul Goldenberg
3/28/06
Read Re: Haim - a question
Michael Paul Goldenberg
3/29/06
Read Re: Haim - a question
Louis Talman
3/29/06
Read Re: Haim - a question
Joshua Zucker
3/29/06
Read Re: Haim - a question
Louis Talman
3/29/06
Read Re: Haim - a question
Sedinger, Harry
3/29/06
Read Re: Haim - a question
Michael Paul Goldenberg
3/29/06
Read Re: Haim - a question
Louis Talman
3/29/06
Read Re: Haim - a question
Haim
3/29/06
Read Re: Haim - a question
Joshua Zucker
3/30/06
Read Re: Haim - a question
Haim
3/30/06
Read Re: Haim - a question
Michael Paul Goldenberg
3/30/06
Read Re: Haim - a question
Haim
3/30/06
Read Re: Haim - a question
Michael Paul Goldenberg
3/30/06
Read Re: Haim - a question
Haim
3/30/06
Read Re: Haim - a question
Michael Paul Goldenberg
3/30/06
Read Re: Haim - a question
Pam
3/30/06
Read Re: Haim - a question
Michael Paul Goldenberg
3/30/06
Read Re: Haim - a question
Dave L. Renfro
3/31/06
Read Re: Haim - a question
Pam
3/31/06
Read Re: Haim - a question
Louis Talman
3/31/06
Read Re: Haim - a question
Pam
3/30/06
Read Re: Haim - a question
Haim
5/27/07
Read Who says Calculus&Mathematica has failed?
Jerry Uhl
5/28/07
Read Re: Who says Calculus&Mathematica has failed?
Kirby Urner
3/30/06
Read Re: Haim - a question
Greg Matheson
3/31/06
Read Re: Haim - a question
Pam
3/31/06
Read Re: Haim - a question
Wayne Bishop
3/31/06
Read Re: Haim - a question
Joshua Zucker
3/31/06
Read Re: Haim - a question
Haim
3/31/06
Read Re: Haim - a question
Wayne Bishop
3/31/06
Read Re: Haim - a question
Haim
3/31/06
Read Re: Haim - a question
kimgendop
3/31/06
Read Re: Haim - a question
Richard Strausz
3/31/06
Read Re: Haim - a question
Louis Talman
3/31/06
Read Re: Haim - a question
Louis Talman
3/29/06
Read Re: Haim - a question
Haim
3/29/06
Read Re: Haim - a question
Michael Paul Goldenberg
3/29/06
Read Re: Haim - a question
Pam
3/29/06
Read Re: Haim - a question
Haim
3/29/06
Read Re: Haim - a question
Michael Paul Goldenberg
3/29/06
Read Re: Haim - a question
Pam
3/29/06
Read Re: Haim - a question
Michael Paul Goldenberg
3/29/06
Read Re: Haim - a question
Haim
3/29/06
Read Re: Haim - a question
Michael Paul Goldenberg
3/30/06
Read Re: Haim - a question
Wayne Bishop
3/29/06
Read Re: Haim - a question
Louis Talman
3/28/06
Read Re: Case Against Computers K-13
Sedinger, Harry
3/28/06
Read Re: Case Against Computers K-13
Haim
3/28/06
Read Re: Case Against Computers K-13
Michael Paul Goldenberg
3/28/06
Read Re: Case Against Computers K-13
Louis Talman
3/26/06
Read Re: Case Against Computers K-13
Michael Paul Goldenberg
3/27/06
Read Re: Case Against Computers K-13
hboga
3/28/06
Read Re: Case Against Computers K-13
Kirby Urner
3/30/06
Read Re: Case Against Computers K-13
Domenico Rosa
3/30/06
Read Re: Case Against Computers K-13
Michael Paul Goldenberg

Point your RSS reader here for a feed of the latest messages in this topic.

[Privacy Policy] [Terms of Use]

© The Math Forum at NCTM 1994-2017. All Rights Reserved.