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Topic: SF: Finally, surrogate factoring
Replies: 86   Last Post: Jun 10, 2006 11:51 PM

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 William L. Bahn Posts: 10 Registered: 9/16/05
Re: SF: Finally, surrogate factoring
Posted: Jun 5, 2006 12:46 PM

<jstevh@msn.com> wrote in message
> Gordon Burditt wrote:
> > >Consider a relation between two integer factorizations:
> > >
> > >f_1 f_2 = k + g_1 g_2
> > >
> > >and a solution with four unknowns w, x, y and z, as they are

determined
> > ...
> > >I call this method the Holy Grail of factoring--a basic
template for
> > >factoring any composite.
> >
> > Which of the RSA challenge numbers have you factored with

this?
> >
> > If that's too complicated, please demonstrate how you would

use
> > this to factor 32111. Or how about 6?
> >
> > Gordon L. Burditt

>
> Trivial theory.
>
> I find it weird that so many of you are lost on what

mathematics is
> that you still hold on as if I have to actually demonstrate for
what
> follows from the mathematics to be true.
>

If you provide a demonstration of how your theory can be used to
successfully factor the next RSA number, then we will all stop
calling you a crackpot. If we are able to find a flaw in your
theory that proves that it won't work (and work on arbitrarily
large number in polynomial time), then you agree to never post to
Usenet again.

Come on, James. It's in the bag. You are sitting here with a
theory that you claim you have proven and that is so trivial that
it's correctness is obvious, but you can't get anyone to take a
serious look at it because of your reputation. Well, here's your
chance. Without taking any risk, since you have already proven
your theory, you can offer something of value (provided anyone
actually believes you would stick to your word) in order to get
others to do what you aren't capable of.

> I found that you can just use
>
> f_1 f_2 = k + g_1 g_2
>
> and four variables w, x, y and z with four linear equations, to

SEE why
> the method has to work, while to get g_1 and g_2 you use two of
the
> linear equations and the equation defining k as the difference
to get a
> set of possible values for g_1 and g_2.
>
> That theory is easy algebra. Trivial. It is a proof that the
> factoring problem is actually trivially easy, and a

mathematical proof
> that RSA cannot be secure.
>
> But you want an implementation and a demonstration.
>
> I am sure, someone is working as we speak on giving you one.
>
> Some of you may joke about moving stocks, but you have inside
> information, because our world is a little complicated and most

people
> don't read sci.crypt, but then again, this is public disclosure
so
> maybe you can move your stocks without breaking the law.
>
> I'm not sure. I'm not moving any. But it's not like I really

have any
> anyway. I long ago sold everything I had on the stock market,
and only
> recently acquired small amounts without choosing to do so.
>
>
> James Harris
>

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