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Topic: Set Theory: Should you believe?
Replies: 778   Last Post: Aug 8, 2006 12:02 PM

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 DontBother@nowhere.net Posts: 4,687 Registered: 7/13/06
Re: Set Theory: Should you believe?
Posted: Jul 20, 2006 3:28 PM

On Thu, 20 Jul 2006 12:37:31 -0600, Virgil <virgil@comcast.net> wrote:

>In article <bm7vb2t2arba9mrpdujjjnp8bg0k5pc58s@4ax.com>,
> Lester Zick <DontBother@nowhere.net> wrote:
>

>> On Wed, 19 Jul 2006 20:07:44 -0600, Virgil <virgil@comcast.net> wrote:
>>

>> >In article <ocntb2p6ahgltjflpf9ed7b8dcqgl2ve6n@4ax.com>,
>> > Lester Zick <DontBother@nowhere.net> wrote:
>> >

>> >> >But where does one find this alleged absolute falseness? Does Zeck have
>> >> >any concrete examples of this mysterious substance?

>> >>
>> >> I'm not familiar with what Zeck has. What Zick has is exhaustive
>> >> alternatives neither of which you seem willing to acknowledge is true
>> >> or false but prefer to demand examples of things which are true or
>> >> universally true and false alternatives in general.

>> >
>> >Apparently Zick has nothing that Zeck does not have.
>> >
>> >Zick has presented no "exhaustive alternatives", he merely keeps talking
>> >as if there were some.

>>
>> And Verge keeps talking as if there were none.

>
>I am talking as if it has not ben established whether there are any, at
>least until one has assumed something on which to base distinguishing
>alternatives.

Assumed the truth of something used to establish the truth of what is
assumed.

~v~~

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