On Sun, 23 Jul 2006 21:38:24 -0600, Virgil <email@example.com> wrote:
>In article <firstname.lastname@example.org>, > Lester Zick <DontBother@nowhere.net> wrote: > >> On Sun, 23 Jul 2006 14:38:37 -0600, Virgil <email@example.com> wrote: >> >> >> >> Of course. The difference is that it would be nice to start with >> >> something true instead of something just assumed to be true. >> > >> >If wishes were horses, beggars would ride. >> >> Which is undoubtedly why you ride. > >That would require, among other things, wishes to be horses, which I >doubt.
Oh well you're a Mac user.
>> >Until Zick, or someone else, can provide a way of finding a basis for >> >everything in absolute truths, one has to start with some collection of >> >premises. In mathematics such ur-premises are collectively called an >> >axiom system. >> >> Most faith based beliefs are. > > Zick can claim to speak for them if he wishes. > > I speak only for the others, the more common non-faith based systems >of axiomatic mathematics.
The more common non faith based belief systems? How quaint.