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Adrian

Posts: 197
From: Houston, TX
Registered: 1/1/07
Re: If you really want math reform....
Posted: Jan 6, 2007 6:26 PM
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>
> Show us what "properly educated" means Adrian. We
> can't
> wait to tune in your stuff. Point us to the relevant
>
> curriculum resources OK? No one is stopping you.
>
> I already showed you how I strut my stuff on Google
> Video
> and via Quicktime c/o BFI and London Knowledge Lab.
> I
> walk my talk. No government is interfering with my
> plans.
> On the contrary, they're all ears for Pentagon Math
> at
> the Pentagon (note: "pentagon math" is one of those
>
> hybrids, owes nothing to your math professor friends
> in
> Ohio, no credit due, none given).
>


I have -- number theory, combinatorics, real analysis and abstract algebra to name a few. I have already told you that if calculus was moved out of the math department, the math department would probably start out with number theory and/or combinatorics as freshman math. It would be designed to get students proving theorems as much and as quickly as possible because that is the business of mathematics. The sophomore and junior year would be spent on abstract algebra and/or real anaylisis, probably. There would be topology, mathematical logic, differential equations and so on as electives, probably, all taught to seniors that by then can probably handle what most incoming graduate students have trouble with in their second year of graduate school under the current curriculum. Math teachers would be educated under that curriculum which is what I mean by "properly educated". They would know a bunch of math but not nearly as many theorems useful in solving engineering or physics problems.

> > suppose, if we dismantle public education that
> would
> > work too, then we would see what market there is
> for
> > what. And, no one would have to work at it -- it
> is
> > just a question of seeing what people choose when
> > they are well informed.

>
> You sound very hands off and aloof, prone to
> criticize
> and whine from some peanut gallery, pretending your
> hands
> are tied, blaming the government. How very "math
> teacher"
> of you. As a philosopher, I point to your kind as a
> role
> model of what to avoid. "That's the kind of
> sniveling
> grownup wannabee you *don't* want to become" I warn
> 'em.
> They snicker and nod. We get nasty sometimes, just
> like
> those math teachers.
>
> Kirby


I really don't know what you're talking about. I told you very specifically what to do. I cannot just make everyone do it. They have to do it on their own. It all starts with math departments suffering a temporary but very dramatic loss in support.

What exactly am I supposedly supposed to "get working" on there?


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