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[ap-stat] Mike's 2-Sample Proportion Problem
Posted:
Mar 20, 2007 7:55 PM
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Mike, Corey, and Others:
Mike writes:
> I posed this question to my students today. A survey of 1200 potential Democrat > primary voters asked who they would vote for. 444 said Clinton, 390 said Obama. > (these are fabricated numbers). Is there a significant difference in the > proportions? We treated this as a 2-sided 2-proportion test and got a p-value > of .0206, therefore concluding that there is pretty strong evidence that Clinton > is ahead. My question is whether this is valid in light of the condition that > the SRS's must be independent. I'm not sure how the independence condition is > met. > Thanks in Advance, > Mike McCarvill > Blind Brook High School > Rye Brook, NY > ====
Let's summarize this as follows:
(1) Clinton: pcap1= 444/1200 = 0.370
(2) Obama: pcap2= 390/1200 = 0.325
(3) Others/Undecided: 366/1200 = 0.305
Not only are these not from independent samples but since we have three categories (and so the 2 df as Corey indicated) this is really a multinomial (trinomial) situation (but, unlike Corey, will ignore using a chi-square test here). For such, the exact [oh, here we go with this again!] standard error of the difference pcap1-pcap2 is
sqrt[Var(pcap1) + Var(pcap2) - 2Cov(pcap1, pcap2)] = sqrt[(p1)(1-p1)/n + (p2)(1-p2)/n + 2(p1)(p2)/n]
where that last term under the square root comes from the covariance for such a multinomial (trinomial) distribution. Thus, using the usual point estimates for p1 and p2, namely pcap1 and pcap2, we have for the estimated standard error
sqrt[(0.370)(0.630)/1200 + (0.325)(0.675)/1200 + 2(0.370)(0.325)/1200]
which gives 0.0235
compared with 0.0194 sans the covariance term. Thus, Mike should be using 0.0235 in the denominator of the test stat instead of 0.0194.
Hope this was helpful.
-- David Bee
PS: If we were to form 95 percent interval estimates for the difference p1 - p2 instead, then with the covariance it would be (-0.001, 0.091) and incorrectly without it (0.006, 0.084) [assuming my arithmetic is correct]. PPS: So, which one would Hillary want and which one would Barack want reported in the press? ==== Course related websites: FAQ: http://www.mrderksen.com/faq.htm PLEASE CHECK THIS GREAT SITE FOR FREQUENTLY ASKED QUESTIONS AP Central: http://apcentral.collegeboard.com/stats Archives: http://mathforum.org/kb/forum.jspa?forumID=67 --- ap-stat is an Electronic Discussion Group (EDG) of The College Board TO CHANGE YOUR EMAIL ADDRESS, PASSWORD OR SETTINGS, go to http://lyris.collegeboard.com/read/my_account/edit To UNSUBSCRIBE click the unsubscribe button on your Forums page: http://lyris.collegeboard.com/read/my_forums/
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