You clearly don't know or recall the history of this forum. It was started as nctm-l by folks at the math forum, not by a bunch of cranky assholes like you or Wayne or Dom Rosa. The focus was the 1989, 1991, and 1993 NCTM Standards volumes, the ones most members of this list have never actually read. But what else is new when big- mouthed egomaniacs with axes to grind get the safety and anonymity of the internet to hide behind while griping about the good old days and offering zip in the way of either constructive criticism or original alternatives?
Eventually, "management" at the math forum chose to change the name of the list to "math-teach."
Can't quite see how that goes with your claims or insinuations, but again, nothing new there. When have you or Wayne needed reality to support your bullshit?
As to what "regime" I favor, you have no clue. The only thing I have ever supported or advocated for is a view of math teaching and learning different from yours. I've never said that the way public or private schools are run in this country (or the folks who run them) are for the most part good, bad, or otherwise. I have plenty of gripes with many aspects of public education that I don't address here. Wouldn't waste my time giving you additional grist for your idiotic mill. I never dreamed when I joined this list more than a dozen years ago that it was going to be what it quickly became or that politics would become such a big piece of it. When Rosen and Klein reared their ugly heads, who'd have thought that they'd turn out to be both utter idiots about mathematics education AND red diaper babies? That Jerry Rosen would be affiliated with the Progressive Labor Party, a group I've despised since I first encountered them in the late 1960s? That David Klein would be both politically correct AND "mathematically correct"? The two would hardly seem to go together. Even now, as the most blatantly right wing MC/HOLD folks are trying to ascend to the US Department of Education to do further damage (and as the corruption of their pals in the Reading Wars are coming to light with each passing day), David Klein appears to remain steadfast in the moronic belief that he can separate educational politics from other political issues and beliefs. That being in bed with some horrendously racist, sexist, and homophobic neo-cons and reactionaries won't wash off on him because they all hold the same angstrom-wide views of what comprises "real" mathematics teaching and learning. A psychiatrist should be kept on full-time alert for the MC/HOLD crowd, because one of these days, Klein's head is going to explode.
Of course, you will continue to assert that you know that I'm a "socialist" and that I think Joe Stalin and Mao were swell guys. That there's some inner circle of educational power to which I belong and/ or support. Nice lies, but there's not a shred of truth to them. That won't stop you from continuing to repeat them, any more than reality will stop Wayne Bishop from his lies about liberal racism, etc. I'm sure he's planning an article about how the inventor of the bicycle is part of the fuzzy conspiracy. Maybe the inventor of pavement, too. :)
On Apr 24, 2007, at 9:28 PM, Haim wrote:
> MPG Posted: Apr 24, 2007 4:19 PM >> Finally, it's perfectly safe to assume that if you're >> advocating or pushing something, the best question to >> as is "Cui bono?" > > Well, duh. Every social or political order favors some people > and disfavors others. For every order of things, the central > question is, "cui bono?" > > So, how about the education regime you favor? You know, the one > that has dominated public education since, oh, about 1964? Who > benefits from your regime? We know it is not the children, > otherwise fora like this one would not even exist. > > Haim > Je me souviens > >