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Topic: Why Quantum Computing Is Bunk
Replies: 176   Last Post: Jun 10, 2007 12:30 AM

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 Mitchell Jones Posts: 17 Registered: 8/18/05
Re: Why Quantum Computing Is Bunk
Posted: May 18, 2007 9:47 PM

Vend <vend82@virgilio.it> wrote:

> On 17 Mag, 22:02, Mitchell Jones <mjo...@21cenlogic.com> wrote:
> > ***{When you turn the power level of a photon source down to the point
> > where you think you are emitting single photons, the waveform becomes
> > quite literally a series of spikes.

>
> If you measure it, yes.

***{IF you measure it? In your previous post, that was your suggestion,
or so I thought. Here are your words again:

> When you design a light source you can control the total emitted power
> (total energy/time) and the wavelength (the 'color' of the light).
> Since the total energy emitted in a given time interval is just the
> sum of the energy of all photons emitted in that interval, you can
> simply calculate the average number of photons per interval: n = El/
> hc, where E is the total energy.

I assumed, when I read the above, that you intended to determine E by
measuring the electrical power consumed by the photon source. If that
assumption is incorrect, then how do you plan to determine the value of
E? You cannot, as I have already noted several times, simply count the
clicks of a photon detector, because it is precisely the efficiency of
photon detectors--i.e., the ratio of photons emitted to photons
detected--that we are trying to determine. If that efficiency is very
low, if in fact clouds of photons are emitted down both pathways for
every detection in these so called "single photon self interference"
experiments, then there is in fact not a shred of evidence that the much
ballyhooed phenomenon of self-interference even exists.

Therefore I repeat: how do you propose to determine the value of E, if
not by measuring the electrical power consumed by your photon source?

--Mitchell Jones

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