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Re: [Fathom & TP] Creating a collection from a frequency table?
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Nov 19, 2007 11:10 AM
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The original question (if I understand it, correct me, Kevin, if I'm wrong) was about doing analyses on data when you have the frequency table but not the cases.
Suppose you know that in your town there are 76,312 Republicans, 55,400 Democrats and 24,800 Greens, Independents, etc. You want to do some kind of analysis as if you had all 150,000-ish cases, but you don't want to enter them all.
Wouldn't that be great?? Alas, Your Basic Fathom doesn't do what you want, however:
* Once upon a time there was a concept called the "Virtual Collection" that Bill might weigh in on as to whether it might eventually be resurrected
* You COULD make a collection with 150,000+ cases with an attribute "affiliation" and a formula involving caseIndex, and although this would work for modest-sized situations, the large size here would bring Fathom to its knees, depending on your hardware.
* You can do a lot of what you might want to do in Fathom's Test and Estimate objects without ever having case-by-case data. For example, suppose you want to do a Test for Independence to see if party affiliation is associated with sex (and you have the sex breakdown of the party numbers above). > Create a test object > Choose "Test of Independence" > Edit the numbers in the box to reflect numbers and names of categories > Enter the frequencies and shazam! You have your test! (You can collect measures from this test as usual if you want to change things and graph results)
And finally, not actually a response to THIS issue,
Corey mentioned some trick with bar charts. I don't remember what I was alleged to have said! But it might have to do with the little- used (so maybe unknown :) feature whereby you double-click the bar- chart formula -- which is count( ) by default, so you get frequencies -- and alter it.
So suppose you have a bar chart showing frequencies of males and females in a Census data set. Here, you have the case-by-case data. Now you want to show the difference in mean income. > Double-click count( ) at the bottom of the graph > edit it to show mean(income) and now the bar chart compares mean income instead of count. This is great for many things such as showing the actual pattern detected by a chisquare procedure and displaying unusual exploratory data: for example, suppose we didn't want to display the MEAN income but rather the 67th percentile. Just change the formula!
Best to all, and happy eating,
Tim
------------------------------------ Tim Erickson * Epistemological Engineering 5269 Miles Avenue, Oakland CA 94618 * 510.653.3377 http://www.eeps.com
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