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quasi

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Re: Random numbers
Posted: Dec 21, 2007 9:31 AM
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On 21 Dec 2007 16:20:58 +0200, Phil Carmody
<thefatphil_demunged@yahoo.co.uk> wrote:

>quasi <quasi@null.set> writes:
>> On 21 Dec 2007 14:53:38 +0200, Phil Carmody
>> <thefatphil_demunged@yahoo.co.uk> wrote:
>>

>> >quasi <quasi@null.set> writes:
>> >> On 21 Dec 2007 14:33:08 +0200, Phil Carmody
>> >> <thefatphil_demunged@yahoo.co.uk> wrote:
>> >>

>> >> >John <iamachamp@gmail.com> writes:
>> >> >> Given a function that returns a random number between 1-5, write one
>> >> >> that returns a random number between 1-7 for the case when it should
>> >> >> be integer and for the case it can be real.

>> >> >
>> >> >int rand1to7i()
>> >> >{
>> >> > int r1=rand1to5i();
>> >> > if(r1==5) { r1+=rand1to5i()/2; }
>> >> > return r1;
>> >> >}

>> >>
>> >> Fatally flawed.

>> >
>> >Wrong. Care to back up your claim? Between you and me, I
>> >reckon you've not thought about my response enough.

>>
>> Yes, do a simulation, and then _you_ think about it.

>
>What do you think the simulation will prove, and why do you
>think that's important?
>

>> >> >double rand1to7d()
>> >> >{
>> >> > return rand1to5d()+(rand1to5d()-1)/2;
>> >> >}

>> >>
>> >> Inefficient -- uses 2 RNG calls, instead of 1.

>> >
>> >Wrong. If you stretch the numbers out, you'll leave gaps
>> >between them, these aren't actual reals, you did realise
>> >that, right? You *need* 2 calls to ensure that you leave
>> >no gaps.

>>
>> Forget gaps -- your method is biased!

>
>Already responded to that irrelevancy elsewhere in the thread.


Already responded to your weak coverup ploy.

quasi


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