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Dik T. Winter

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Re: Answer to Dik T. Winter
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In article <8b2855cd-18d0-44b1-be59-8dd3d8dabbb7@v2g2000vbb.googlegroups.com> WM <mueckenh@rz.fh-augsburg.de> writes:
> On 22 Jun., 15:36, "Dik T. Winter" <Dik.Win...@cwi.nl> wrote:
...
> > > > > > > > > > Because you do not check the lines in order.
> > > > > > > > > > It is always your basic assumption that you
> > > > > > > > > > first check the first line and after that
> > > > > > > > > > the next line. That is wrong.

> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > That is necessary because you cannot find the n-th
> > > > > > > > > line unless you know the line number n - 1 or some
> > > > > > > > > equivalent mark.

...
> > > > Why does it imply checking the previous lines? Why do you not answer
> > > > that question?

> > >
> > > You cannot check line n without knowing line n-1.

> >
> > But why does that imply *checking* line n-1? Why do you not answer that
> > question?

>
> It implies knowing line n-1. It implies counting till that number.


And still no answer to my question, and what you write here is wrong. In
the bijection of the rationals > 0 and the naturals I have so often shown,
to know the rational maped to 66 you need only know the rationals mapped
to lines 1, 2, 4, 8, 16, 32 and 33. So I need not to know the rational
mapped to 65.

But my question was: "why is knowing a line the same as checking a line"?
Because you originally asserted: "when checking line n of Cantor's list
you need to check all previous lines". What is that? Nonsense or not?
--
dik t. winter, cwi, science park 123, 1098 xg amsterdam, nederland, +31205924131
home: bovenover 215, 1025 jn amsterdam, nederland; http://www.cwi.nl/~dik/



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