
Re: michelson morley experiment questions
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Jul 5, 2009 5:27 AM


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Spirit of Truth wrote: > "doug" <xx@xx.com> wrote in message > news:JIudnRBFoZrYgM3XnZ2dnUVZ_vZi4p2d@posted.docknet... > > > > > > Spirit of Truth wrote: > > > >> "doug" <xx@xx.com> wrote in message > >> news:FfOdnaF1mZI2aNLXnZ2dnUVZ_sVi4p2d@posted.docknet... > >> > >>> > >>>Spirit of Truth wrote: > >>> > >>> > >>>>"Sam Wormley" <swormley1@mchsi.com> wrote in message > >>>>news:69J3m.769906$yE1.198126@attbi_s21... > >>>> > >>>> > >>>>>Spirit of Truth wrote: > >>>>> > >>>>> > >>>>>>"Sam Wormley" <swormley1@mchsi.com> wrote in message > >>>>>>news:asz3m.172354$DP1.48239@attbi_s22... > >>>>>> > >>>>>> > >>>>>>>Spirit of Truth wrote: > >>>>> > >>>>>>>>ROTFL > >>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>You are correct, Einstein did not realize it. If he had he would > >>>>>>>>not have adopted LET and would have found the correct answer. > >>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>Blockhead universe is the universe where you are acting out > >>>>>>>>a preordained event timeline that already exists. That > >>>>>>>>imagined SR universe in which you are just a Robot. > >>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>Spirit of Truth > >>>>>>>> > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> So you are saying Einstein didn't have any choice... that he had > >>>>>>> to create SR > >>>>>> > >>>>>>Exactly, but you need to _confront_ the fact and confronting it > >>>>>>face up to the fact that it is nonsense and solve the matter so > >>>>>>that lack of simultaneity is obliterated from the scientific > >>>>>>literature so that the scientific community can again be > >>>>>>restored to a state of respect and truth. > >>>>>> > >>>>>> > >>>>>>Spirit of Truth > >>>>>> > >>>>>> > >>>>>> > >>>>>>>and that you, Spirit don't have any choice about > >>>>>>>learning what SR really says. Pitiful, wouldn't you say? > >>>>>> > >>>>>>As an aside, what would be pitiful, Sam, would be an > >>>>>>intelligent person like you burying your head in the sand. > >>>>> > >>>>> Noyou've already stated there is no free will... confronting > >>>>> does no good if there is no free will. According to you... you > >>>>> have no choice, I have no choice, Einstein had no choice, the > >>>>> scientific community has no choice... all cogs grinding along > >>>>> unable to change outcomes. > >>>> > >>>> > >>>>Sam, not according to me. According to your religion, SR. > >>> > >>>This shows how little you know of science. > >>>Why do you enjoy being stupid? > >>> > >>>>Face up to the situation, lack of simultaneiety which means > >>>>blockhead universe is bunk. > >> > >> > >> > >> I would tell you all I wrote above applies to you too, but you > >> appear too unintelligent to understand truth, boy. > > > > You come and spew nonsense and then have a childish tantrum > > when it is pointed out that you know nothing about science. > > Go ahead and cry and stomp your feet but it will not make > > you look like an adult. > > > I guess you also think the Earth moves, dummie! > > > Spirit of Truth Stop the name calling!
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The Poincare Conjecture reduces to a conjecture that a minumum of 9 points on the sphere arranged somewhat like this: . . . . . . . . . is the smallest simplyconnected case. That the old Poincare Conjecture is false but a modified PC involving that 9 point matrix is true. This is because the Reals are discrete and have gaps in between consecutive Reals. But now notice I connect line segments to those 9 points shown above. I cannot do it even with ascii art so let me describe it. . . . forms one triangle and the next is . . . then there is . . . and finally there is . . . These four triangles leave the inside point unscathed so that this is the point that the Poincare loop shrinks to. The essence of the 4Color Mapping is that there is no fifth closed loop that can be adjacent to four closed loops that are adjacent. In other words four adjacent closed loops is the maximum. So now, let us relook at the above modified Poincare Conjecture with its surrounding four triangles of that 9 point lattice. Can you see where Poincare Conjecture has now merged as an equivalent statement as the 4 Color Mapping Problem? The minimum number of closed loopstriangles to satisfy Poincare Conjecture is 4, and the maximum closed loops to satisfy 4Color Mapping is of course 4. So, in essence 9 point matrix is related to adjacency maximum of 4.
The essence of 4 Color Mapping is that there is never a 5th mutual adjacency, and I proved it using the Moebius theorem, but let us look at 4 Color Mapping as an alternate statement of the Poincare Conjecture. Here is 4 Color Mapping in its essence: MMMMMM MMMMMM BBJJJ BBJJJ Shown is the M country adjacent with B and J countries. So all three are mutually adjacent, meaning, each has a contact with the others. Now let us apply a 4th mutual adjacency in the form of O: MMMMMM MMMMMM BBJJJO BBJJJO OOOO Now, clearly, can you see why 4 mutual adjacency is a maximum? Can you see that a 5th is never allowed because the J country was covered over by the O country? Now here is the relevancy and relatedness to the Poincare Conjecture for the O country covering is the same as encircling of a country so that no other country can penetrate inside the covering up of J. That 4 Color Mapping is a question of the existence of a 5th mutual adjacency. And the reason you cannot have a 5th is because the 4th encircles one of the previous 3 countries. Now the OldPoincare Conjecture says that all closed loops has a point inside for which that loop when it shrinks will always have that point inside. The New Poincare Conjecture as outlined in this book says that the Old Poincare Conjecture is false because the points in Euclidean and Elliptic geometry are discrete with consecutive points and having gaps in between. So we need at least 9 consecutive points in such an array to have a Poincare Conjecture: . . . . . . . . . The middle point is the Poincare point where the surrounding points serve as the smallest loop. So when we shrink that loop we end up with that middle point. Now, can you see the similarity between the 4 Color Mapping and the New Poincare Conjecture? The J country above is the point in the middle of that Poincare array. In a sense, when you do the 4 Color Mapping you are doing a Poincare loop around 3 mutual adjacent countries and the 4th country that is mutually adjacent cuts off one of the other three countries by encircling it. What is the importance of these insights? Well for one it shows 4 Color Mapping is equivalent to NewPoincare Conjecture. But more important is that the 4 Color Mapping was not affected by the revelation that the points in Euclidean geometry were discrete and consecutive with holes in between consecutive Reals. The proof of 4 Color Mapping was not affected by that revelation. But the Old Poincare Conjecture was seen as false and had to be revised with a 9 point array. So here is the interesting good news about this equivalency. Since the 4 Color Mapping is a true theorem of mathematics with discrete and consecutive Reals, and if the only Poincare Conjecture that is true is the modified form where 9 point array then the 4Color Mapping in a sense destroys the Old Poincare Conjecture. So if you believe still that the Old Poincare Conjecture is true then it is contradictory to the 4 Color Mapping and that there is a 5th mutual adjacency. So can one use the Old Poincare Conjecture and devise a 5th mutual adjacency? Apparently one can do so because of the infinite downward regression of the old Betweenness axiom that given A and B is always a new C. P.S. the ironies of life are perhaps the most marvellous experiences of living. Because it was about 20 years ago that I started proving 4 Color is false and Poincare is true and here it is 20 years later that I am forced to say 4 Color was true and Poincare was false. I am saving this for future laughter and ridicule. It would be like if Wikipedia existed in the time of Copernicus, that their article on "earth" would be describing a flat planet where you fall off if you sailed at the edge. In light of the above posts of mine, that the 4Color Mapping is equivalent to a NewPoincareConjecture makes Wikipedia's writeup nothing but a bunch of hogwash.  quoting Wikipedia  http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Poincare_conjecture Poincaré conjecture From Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia (Redirected from Poincare conjecture) Jump to: navigation, search In mathematics, the Poincaré conjecture (French, pronounced [pw??ka?e]) [1] is a theorem about the characterization of the threedimensional sphere among threedimensional manifolds. It began as a popular, important conjecture, but is now considered a theorem to the satisfaction of the awarders of the Fields medal. The claim concerns a space that locally looks like ordinary three dimensional space but is connected, finite in size, and lacks any boundary (a closed 3 manifold). The Poincaré conjecture claims that if such a space has the additional property that each loop in the space can be continuously tightened to a point, then it is just a threedimensional sphere. An analogous result has been known in higher dimensions for some time. For closed 2 dimensional surfaces, if every loop can be continuously tightened to a point, then the surface is a 2sphere. The Poincaré conjecture attempts to determine if the same is true for closed 3 dimensional spaces. After nearly a century of effort by mathematicians, Grigori Perelman sketched a proof of the conjecture in a series of papers made available in 2002 and 2003. The proof followed the program of Richard Hamilton. Several highprofile teams of mathematicians have since verified the correctness of Perelman's proof. The Poincaré conjecture was, before being proven, one of the most important open questions in topology. It is one of the seven Millennium Prize Problems, for which the Clay Mathematics Institute offered a $1,000,000 prize for the first correct solution. Perelman's work survived review and was confirmed in 2006, leading to him being offered a Fields Medal, which he declined. The Poincaré conjecture remains the only solved Millennium problem. On December 22, 2006, the journal Science honored Perelman's proof of the Poincaré conjecture as the scientific "Breakthrough of the Year," the first time this had been bestowed in the area of mathematics.[2]  end quoting Wikipedia  Archimedes Plutonium www.iw.net/~a_plutonium whole entire Universe is just one big atom where dots of the electrondotcloud are galaxies Reply Reply to author Forward Rate this post: Text for clearing space . Discussion subject changed to "how can we have a Poincare Conjecture equal to a... Sounds almost incredulous that the two are the same things. But the key is that both are about encircling and closing off geometrical figures. The previous illustration of 4Color Mapping: MMMMMM MMMMMM BBJJO BBJJO OOOO In order for those four countries to be 4 colorable means there is 4 mutual adjacencies and no more. If there was a 5th mutual adjacency then we lose the 4 Color Mapping. And what makes it possible is that the O country encircles the J country so that no 5th country can ever connect with J. In the OldPoincare Conjecture we have simplyconnected that a closed loop shrinks to a point. But because Reals are discrete with gaps between consecutive Reals the Old Poincare Conjecture must be false and only with some revisions can we even have a New Poincare Conjecture. A closed loop shrunk is not a singular point but an array of at least 9 consecutive points where the Poincare point is in the middle. . . . . . . . . . So how are those two pictures above the same thing? Seems incredulous that they could be the same. They are the same if we consider shrinking the 4 Color Mapping and we consider the octupuses tentacles as country mapping. So we have five countries as octupus tentacles and they meet at the end tip all five. So can those five countrytentacles all be mutually adjacent of those five endtips? Well if the Old Poincare Conjecture was true then we add another country, the L country to the above diagram: LLLLLLLLLLL LMMMMMML LMMMMMML LLBBJJOLLLL LLBBJJOL LLOOOOL LLLLLLLLL They are all mutually adjacent except for the J to L countries. But if the Old Poincare Conjecture were true we shrink that entire country set and what happens is that the J and L countries now do become mutually adjacent. They become mutually adjacent because the J country becomes the point in the Old Poincare Conjecture. The New Poincare Conjecture upon shrinkage stops short of J becoming mutually adjacent because the 9 point array blocks the penetration of the L country. Having some difficulty in explaining this and so will leave it at that. It is due to the fact it is not clear flowing to me, yet. The idea is that if the Betweenness Axiom is allowed then it is the source of all this inconsistency and contradictions. That between any two A and B is always a C causes the 5 tentacles to be mutually adjacent and causes the L country to penetrate and touch the J country.  Show quoted text  Untitled to the friends of Kolmogorov?N.L. Dreier, A.A. Malinovskii, S.A. Musatov, ..... his customary improvizations during the lecture Luzin made a conjecture ... (they discussed a series of questions arising from Poincare's problem of three geodesies). .... remaining part was divided into two almost equal parts. ...
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