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Re: The Worst Scientific Scandal of Our Generation
Posted:
Dec 22, 2009 3:01 PM
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Louis Talman wrote:
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> On Dec 21, 2009, at 9:54 PM, Haim wrote:
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>> They are, or were, key players in climate "science". Many scientists
>> agreed with the CRU on climate change because they believed the CRU's
>> data.
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> CRU isn't the only source of data. And all the data agree.
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> And the ice-caps *are* melting.
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> So there's no joke.
The joke is ongoing. The Danish Meteorological Institute has arctic
temperatures for this past summer below average, with many fewer days
above freezing than the average for the past few decades. Nothing noted
is beyond known natural variation.
Melting ice caps and cute but vicious Ursus maritimus on ice floes are
great for scaring folks into forgetting the obvious... the important
question is what's causing it (however big or small the warming is), and
what we have is coincidence confused with causality. The only causal,
physical connection we have between CO2 and measured temperatures are
the general circulation models which have been parameterized (ie
jiggered to fit) the temperature records. Nothing wrong with
parameterization, per se, but none of the myriad GCM agree completely
with each other, and they all predict atmospheric warming patterns that
have been shown not to exist. And none have predicted the mild cooling
of the past decade.
In the meantime, galactic cosmic rays continue to gain credibility as a
factor which must be factored into the GCM but have not. Just a couple
months ago a paper in the peer reviewed literature showed unmistakable
decreases in cloud cover seven days after Forbush events (short term
decreases in GCR due to solar mass ejections) in complete accordance
with the theories of GCR and the production of cloud condensation
nuclei. The reduction of cloud cover from the GCR variation was roughly
equivalent (about 2 watts per square meter) to what the IPCC concluded
for 20th century CO2 forcing must have been.
"Cosmic ray decreases affect atmospheric aerosols and clouds" prepub
version:
http://wattsupwiththat.files.wordpress.com/2009/08/svensmark-forebush.pdf
an easy reading version is here
http://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2009/08/090801095810.htm
We also have the sun in a definite deep minimum. We are living in
interesting times.
"The fact is that we can't account for the lack of warming at the moment
and it is a travesty that we can't"
Whistleblower or hacker, the Climategate emails and files are gifts that
keep on giving.
cheers
- -Greg
PS the CLOUD experiment is gathering data at CERN, place your bets.
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> - --Lou Talman
> Department of Mathematical & Computer Sciences
> Metropolitan State College of Denver
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> <http://rowdy.mscd.edu/%7Etalmanl>
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