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Re: The Worst Scientific Scandal of Our Generation
Posted:
Dec 22, 2009 11:55 PM
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On Dec 22, 2009, at 7:55 PM, Wayne Bishop wrote:
> Make that singular and, in spite of all the hype about the Arctic,
> don't include the ice that really matters; the Greenland ice sheet.
> The polar cap is sea ice so as we all know (from reading and being
> taught science, not from discovering science) that its melting
> doesn't affect sea level.
Nor, I suppose you will try to tell us next, is it indicative of any
kind of a warming trend?
> Since proxy data indicate that it has melted off in the summer about
> half the time over the last 10,000 years, the polar bears and the
> Inuits will survive (thrive?) another if modest changes in ocean
> currents (that may be cyclical?) makes it happen again in the next 5
> or 50 years. Kinda cute... In 2006, my LA Times did a big front page
> article entitled "Greenland's Ice Sheet Is Slip-Sliding Away"
> although, to my knowledge, farming hasn't resumed on Greenland since
> it froze out in 1100 more or less.
> http://articles.latimes.com/2006/jun/25/science/sci-greenland25
Oh?
<http://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2009/11/091125230727.htm>
<http://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2008/01/080113143438.htm>
<http://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2006/03/060302180504.htm>
<http://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2006/09/060920193210.htm>
All of this comes from cooked data? or dry-labbed data?
More at
<http://www.sciencedaily.com/news/earth_climate/climate/>
> You have to get to paragraph 32, pages into the article, to read:
>
> "Zwally and his colleagues in March [2006] released an analysis of
> data from two European remote-sensing satellites showing the amount
> of water locked up in the ice sheet had risen slightly between 1992
> and 2002.
>
> But data doesn't match the importance of religious conviction
You should certainly be qualified to tell us this, Wayne, seeing that
you only accept data that match your convictions.
> held by both the LA Times and Jay Zwally so this embarrassing fact
> contradicting that global warming is melting off the Greenland ice
> sheet was surrounded by arguments as to why global warming caused
> the problem. This stuff is fun to watch.
For us old geezers, yes. We won't be around to face the consequences.
Not that anyone knows what they'll be... The data and the models are
far from complete enough to draw meaningful conclusions---in either
direction. I can think of a scenario or two where a global warming
trend could initiate a new glaciation of the Rocky Mountains.
--Lou Talman
Department of Mathematical & Computer Sciences
Metropolitan State College of Denver
<http://rowdy.mscd.edu/%7Etalmanl>
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