On Feb 19, 8:24 am, "Peter T. Daniels" <gramma...@verizon.net> wrote: > On Feb 19, 4:34 am, James Hogg <Jas.H...@gOUTmail.com> wrote: > > > > > > > John Atkinson wrote: > > > Halmyre wrote: > > >> On 19 Feb, 04:58, "Ray O'Hara" <raymond-oh...@hotmail.com> wrote: > > >>> "Andrew Usher" <k_over_hb...@yahoo.com> wrote in message > > > >>>news:65e2a2e7-1aef-4872-97a7-360fa6a10a6a@q21g2000yqm.googlegroups.com... > > > >>>> Owing to the inconveniences which attend the shifting of the > > >>>> calendar, and attempting in passing to create a more perfect > > >>>> Church calendar, I say the following: 1. That Christmas day > > >>>> should be fixed to a Sunday, and this should be the Sunday > > >>>> between Dec. 21 and 27, and that in all civilised countries the > > >>>> Monday should be considered a holiday, or the Saturday if not > > >>>> normally. 2. That similarly Easter day should be fixed to the > > >>>> Sunday which is 15 weeks following Christmas. 3. That the leap > > >>>> year rule be changed to have a leap year occur every fourth > > >>>> save that it be delayed when the leap year would start on a > > >>>> Thursday, and that this gives 7 leap years in every 29, which > > >>>> is near enough. 4. That the perpetual calendar can be made, by > > >>>> considering the first day of the year of weeks to occur on the > > >>>> Sunday after the Assumption, and if this is the first possible > > >>>> calendar day, it is called week 1, and otherwise week 2, and > > >>>> every year runs through week 53. And this calendar ensures that > > >>>> everything can be fixed to a day of a certain week, in > > >>>> particular the American Thanksgiving must be made 31 days > > >>>> before Christmas. 6. This is surely the best possible > > >>>> arrangement that can be made, without disturbing the cycle of > > >>>> weeks or that of calendar days inherited from the Romans. > > >>>> Andrew Usher > > >>> The calendar has several sources, not just the Rome and the onewe > > >>> habe in fine as it is > > >> I just wish they'd settle on a date for Easter and be done with it. > > > > But, the whole point of Easter is that it has a full moon! You might > > > as well scrap the whole thing otherwise. Or are you suggesting that > > > we only take holidays at Easter every four years or so, when your > > > ?settled? date just happens to correspond with the right lunar phase? > > > My Book of Common Prayer makes things easy by pointing out that "the > > moon referred to in the definition of Easter Day is not the actual moon > > of the heavens, but the Calendar Moon, or Moon of the Lunar Cycle, which > > is counted as full on its fourteenth day, reckoned from the day of the > > Calendar New Moon inclusive." Also, in a Bissextile Year "the number of > > Sundays after Epiphany will be the same, as if Easter Day had fallen one > > day later than it really does." > > Which is why Easter and Passover rarely coincide -- we happen to have > had a spate of coincidence in recent years, but that'll soon be over. > > > What could be simpler? > > The Muslim calendar -- no intercalated months, and no connection with > the solar year. So Ramadan drifts through the seasons.
Ramadan is celebrated according to the actual siting of the crescent, not the (various) algorithms used for civil purposes, though I think some "cheat" by using the algorithms (there are a couple most frequently used). last time in Iraq the Shia and the Sunni observed it at different dates. so it is rather complicated.
