On Feb 23, 8:44 am, António Marques <antonio...@sapo.pt> wrote: > Peter T. Daniels wrote (23-02-2010 12:42): > > On Feb 23, 7:04 am, Andrew Usher<k_over_hb...@yahoo.com> wrote: > >> Peter T. Daniels wrote:
> >>>>> "The Catholic Church" (which refers to no specific organization) > >>>>> hasn't spoken for all of Christendom for nearly half a millennium. > > >>>> 'The Catholic Church' or simply 'The Church' refers to exactly one > >>>> organisation. It's disingenuous to pretend otherwise. Also, it's been > >>>> longer than half a millennium if one includes the East. > > >>> One doesn't "include the East." One has to wonder what knowledge you > >>> have of the Eastern churches. > > >> The word 'Christendom', which you used, would normally be taken to > >> include the Eastern Orthodox. One wonders why you wouldn't. > > > They are among the many churches for which the Roman Catholic Church > > (which may have been what you meant by "the Catholic Church"?) does > > not speak. > > It's just that that's what he was saying. That the CC "hasn't spoken for all > of Christendom" for "longer than half a millennium".
That was I that said that. Count chevrons very carefully when deleting attributions.
> You pretend not to know what "The Catholic Church" refers to, yet your > answer is built on equating it with a certain church currently led by one > Benedict XVI.-
It is Usher who said "'The Church' refers to exactly one organisation" (complete with the quaint British spelling).