> Evan Kirshenbaum wrote: >> "Peter T. Daniels" <grammatim@verizon.net> writes: >> >>> On Feb 23, 7:07 pm, António Marques <antonio...@sapo.pt> wrote: >>>> Besides, until recently, no other church lived for a universal >>>> ('catholic') vocation. Sure, many of them did have one, but not as >>>> a central structuring element. Notice the RC was never 'the Italian >>>> Church' even when popes were italian for centuries long. >>> Doesn't _every_ extant Christian church use the Nicene Creed? (With or >>> without the _filioque_.) >> Assuming that you're not begging the question, no. Mormons don't. I >> don't believe Jehovah's Witnesses do. I see claims that Seventh-Day >> Adventists accept the original (325) Nicene Creed but not the revised >> (381) version. I'm not sure about Christian Scientists. And I would >> be surprised if there weren't a number of churches (minor, but more >> mainstream than those mentioned) that don't disagree with it but don't >> actually use it. > > I'm pretty sure that Mormons, Jehova's Witnesses and Christian > Scientists are not Christians. I'm not sure about Seventh Dayers.
Mormons, at least, are pretty sure that they are. I'm less sure about Jehovah's Witnesses and Christian Scientists. The Seventh-Day Adventist's page on "What Adventists Believe" begins "As a Christian church", so I'd say that they consider themselves to be.
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