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jmfbahciv

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Registered: 5/6/10
Re: What are space and time?
Posted: Jul 22, 2010 9:43 AM
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Huang wrote:
> On Jul 21, 7:54 am, jmfbahciv <See.ab...@aol.com> wrote:
>> [spit a newsgroup]
>>
>> Huang wrote:
>>
>> <snip
>>
>>
>>

>> > Starting with some preliminaries:
>>
>> > If one adopts the view of existential indeterminacy then you dont
>> > really have axioms which form the basis of mathematics. There should
>> > be a conjectural equivalent of every axiom, but strictly speaking
>> > there are no true axioms in the sense of mathematics.

>>
>> You don't have any idea what mathematics is.

>
>
> And you have no idea what an axiom is.
>
> I have never seen an axiom which ever said anything about quantities
> or objects or solutions which "may or mat not exist". Show me one such
> counterexample and then I will be forced to agree, otherwise I will
> assume that you'll be eating your words because to assume otherwise is
> really absurd.
>
> If you start from the point of view that things "may or may not exist
> with existential potential say p" then you are going to have one very
> difficult time creating an axiom based on that because of course it is
> quite impossible.


Sigh! Not p.
\
>
> I dont have any ideas what math is - indeed. lol
>


No, you don't. You have no idea how it's built, how it's used, nor
what it can't do.

>
>> >Futher, I dont
>> > want to fall back on axioms or their equivalent because that could be
>> > seen as a kind of philosophical cop-out.

>>
>> This is just your high-falutin excuse to not do any work.  All
>> endeavors require a starting point, including pissing in the toilet
>> and eating your breakfast.
>>
>> You still have not defined mass using only space and time nor
>> shown how to measure it with a ruler.
>>
>> <snip>
>>
>> /BAH

>
>
> I dont give an F an out defining mass with a damn ruler - the man said
> he wanted an explanation of PlanckLength from my point of view and
> that's what I provided.


For you to make the declaration you did, then you must provide a method
of defining mass with a ruler. Since you cannot, your premise that
all existence can be described using only space and time is wrong.
If you want to do science, you have to test your hypotheses; testing
requires measurement and the ability to create an experiment
which will falsify your hypothesis.

You ain't doing science; you're just blowing gas.

/BAH


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