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Jonathan Groves

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From: Kaplan University, Argosy University, Florida Institute of Technology
Registered: 8/18/05
Re: Mathematician
Posted: Oct 6, 2010 2:37 AM
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I was wondering why you had titled a thread "Mathematician" about an article
about the term "STEM education," but I see what you mean: your objection
to Elizabeth Stage being referred to as a "mathematician by training."
Her doctorate is in science education, but the real issue is that her
work is exclusively in math and science education rather in mathematics
itself. If she did do work in mathematics research, then I wouldn't
care what degrees she has because that would make her a mathematician
in that case.

A description of her that I had found that mentions her degrees and her

This description certainly does not suggest that she does any work as
a mathematician, just as a math and science educator. I take it that
the graduate courses she taught were in science and math education.

Jonathan Groves

On 10/5/2010 at 10:27 pm, Wayne Bishop wrote:

> Some folks appear to not be relating the title
> thread to the article and my objection. Certainly
> I have my problems with what passes for STEM
> preparedness as well as the acronym but my real
> objection was yet another article in which
> "mathematician" is used in place of "mathematics
> education professor" or some other inappropriate
> "equivalent".
> Wayne
> At 02:24 PM 10/5/2010, Jonathan Groves wrote:

> >Wayne and others,
> >
> >Since many colleges and universities label these

> subjects the
> >"mathematical sciences," why not just call these the
> mathematical
> >sciences? Or maybe we can call them the
> mathematical and technological
> >sciences for those who might not think of
> engineering and computer
> >science and other technology-related fields as
> mathematical sciences.
> >These wouldn't have very good acronyms, but at least
> these names are
> >less confusing to the public. The name can be an
> acronym but does
> >not have to be.
> >
> >Kirby's proposed alternatives are also worth

> considering.
> >
> >I can understand the public being confused about the

> term "STEM education"
> >because if it had not been for my participation in
> online discussions
> >about education, I would not know what "STEM
> education" means.
> >
> >
> >Jonathan Groves

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