On Oct 29, 4:57 pm, Patricia Aldoraz <patricia.aldo...@gmail.com> wrote: > On Oct 30, 3:45 am, "Tronscend" <tronf...@frizurf.no> wrote: > > > Hi there, > > > 1) > > I think we've entered the rambling phase, > > "We" never left it, how can "we" enter it? > > > characterized by the result of the shotgun approach, > > which, when you really look at it, is about disperspersion, isn't it? > > IOW, a thread starting with a theme and a focus, loses the focus > > by diverting into several subjects, the number of which, divided by, > > gives the formula for loss of energy. > > Now you are talking sense! > > > So no need to take any of the following seriously, > > That's right, must not block the end of the hose for comic dust > generation. > > ... > > > > > > Btw, regarding immortalist's paraphrase (?) of Hume: > > > >>>>Induction explains our inferences, it doesn't justify them... > > > (Aside: If we knew the "machine" behind e.g. a coin toss, > > the whole differential equation of gravity, force, spin, the coin > > down to the last pink-striped quark, including initial conditions, > > would the event cease to be random, btw? (Just wondering.)) > > The meaning of "random" is basically for situations where there is > nothing to base a prediction better than 50% on. If it was true that > folk equipped with such forensics won coin tosses more than 50% of the > time, the situation above hardly falls into the category of random. > Perhaps your question is like "How good can we really get at weather > forcasting?" Who knows?
If you look at the history of trying to predict things, the assumption of determinacy is merely invoked as a handwave to justify the superimposition of mathematics on a universe which we desire to be sensible. This was a move based entirely on human bias. There is no 11th commandment from God that the universe is either deterministic or stochastic.
In fact, the very concepts of determinacy and indeterminacy may be regarded as being totally manufactured in our minds, that these very concepts themselves have nothing to do with reality, but more to do with our own imaginations and ability to synthesize explanations.