On Mon, 17 Jan 2011 20:47:55 -0800 (PST), Darwin123 <drosen0000@yahoo.com> wrote:
>On Jan 17, 8:21 pm, ..@..(Henry Wilson DSc) wrote: >> On Mon, 17 Jan 2011 17:01:47 -0800 (PST), Darwin123 <drosen0...@yahoo.com> >> wrote: >> >> >> >> >On Jan 17, 5:55 pm, "Androcles" >> >> You are muddled, drosen0000. >> >> The vector field, i.e. the DIRECTION, is the same whether it is >> >> tangential or radial. >> > Henry Wilson changed the topic by bring up the centrifugal brake. >> >He was the one to suggest that the case of the centrifugal brake is >> >the same as that of the ball on the round a bout. I was pointing out >> >the falseness in his analogy. Please wait your turn :-) >> > The brake shoe can be said to be roughly analogous to the ball on >> >the round a bout. I did not want to deny that part of the analogy. >> >However, the drum in the centrifugal brake and the springs do exert an >> >inward force on the brake shoe. I pointed out that the brake shoe >> >would go in a straight line if the drum and the springs were to >> >disappear. >> > There are real radial forces active in the centrifugal brake. >> >However, they are not "centrifugal forces". >> >> Crap. You are so indoctrinated with Einsteinana you can't think. >> >> For the umpteenth time, THE SHOE EXERTS A RADIALLY OUTWARD... IE., >> CENTRIFUGAL,... FORCE ON THE DRUM. > This force is radially outward, but it is not centrifugal.
The word 'centrifugal' means RADIALLY OUTWARDS you silly old bugger.
>A >centrifugal force would be a radial outward force on the shoe, not the >drum.
There is a radially inward or CENTRIPETAL force on the shoe.
>> >> IT IS NOT IMAGINARY. > Sure. The real force that you describe is exerted by the shoe >on the drum. However, it is not and could not be described as a >centrifugal force by anyone that knows Newtonian mechanics.
It is a RADIALLY OURWARD FORCE. It is CENTRIFUGAL.
> The force that you describe is real, but it is not centrifugal. > A person can be on a merry-go-wrong and kick one of the wooden >horses outward from the hub. The force the person's foot exerts on the >horse is outward. However, that doesn't make it a centrifugal force.
Stupid argument. That kind of force is not related to the rotation. The radially outward ..or CENTRIFUGAL force the shoe exerts on the drum IS.
Why do you think the device is called a 'centrifugal clutch'?
> A centrifugal force is the force that exists on the horse that >pushes it outward while the merry-go-round is turning, but which >disappears when the merry go round stops. This "force" does not exist >in absolute space.
You are really clueless. There is no 'absolute space'.
The centrifugal force is imaginary in the rotating frame. We all know that.
