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 Peter Webb Posts: 151 Registered: 5/1/11
Posted: May 25, 2011 9:59 AM

"kenseto" <kenseto@erinet.com> wrote in message
On May 25, 8:06 am, "Peter Webb"
<webbfam...@optusnetDIESPAMDIE.com.au> wrote:
> "kenseto" <kens...@erinet.com> wrote in message
>
> On May 25, 7:37 am, "Peter Webb"
>
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>
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> <webbfam...@optusnetDIESPAMDIE.com.au> wrote:

> > "kenseto" <kens...@erinet.com> wrote in message
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> > On May 24, 6:59 pm, "Peter Webb"

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> > <webbfam...@optusnetDIESPAMDIE.com.au> wrote:
> > > "Koobee Wublee" <koobee.wub...@gmail.com> wrote in message
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> > > On May 23, 8:47 pm, Tom Roberts wrote:

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> > > > Peter Webb wrote:
> > > > > So what would happen if the Twins paradox was actually tried?
>
> > > > It has been, several times, in several different ways. Measurements
> > > > are
> > > > in
> > > > agreement with the predictions of relativity (SR or GR, depending on
> > > > details).

>
> > > This is just not true. SR predicts the fallacy in the Twins
> > > paradox. In real life, one would expect no such paradox. <shrug>

>
> > > _________________________________
> > > So what would happen in real life? Would the travelling twin be
> > > younger,
> > > older or the same age as the stay-at-home twin when they are
> > > re-united?

>
> > The same age....the traveling twin's year is worth gamma years on the
> > stay at home clock.

>
> > ________________________________
> > So if the twins were muons, and one twin was whizzing around a cyclotron
> > at
> > a speed close to light, and the other was stationary with respect to the
> > cyclotron, would they be the same age when re-united?-

>
> The muon in the cyclotron has a higher state of absolute motion and
> thus 2.2us on the lab clock enable it to travel a much larger distance
> than the lab muon before decaying.
>
> __________________________________
> Hmmm. A higher state of absolute motion, huh?
>
> You haven't answered the question. Will the muons be the same age when
> re-united?

Yes it has 2.2 us according to the lab clock. It travel a longer
distance in 2.2 us than the lab muon because it has a higher state of
absolute motion after acceleration in the cyclotron.

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But numerous experiments show that the travelling muons decay slower, this
has been directly confirmed in cyclotrons.

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