
Re: RE: Algebra 2/Trig Regents
Posted:
Jun 23, 2011 7:07 PM



The exam contained at least one serious mathematical error. That is not fine.
The grading rubric continues to be arbitrary. That is not fine.
You seem to be judging the quality of the exam by your students' scores. I am glad for your students that they did not suffer bad scores as a result of this exam, but that is not an appropriate way to judge the exam itself.
What district are you in, that you so readily compare against others in New York State?
Jonathan Halabi HS of American Studies the Bronx
On Thu, Jun 23, 2011 at 6:48 PM, adkmath <pmhgiroux@adelphia.net> wrote:
> Hi, > I'm sorry that your students' didn't do well, but the exam was fine. I > did exactly the same thing as you did. We took all three of the prior exams > in class (counted as test grades). We went over every question and how to > score each open ended question, I held 3 night time review sessions in which > most of the kids showed up (37 out of 50). They worked their tails off > during the 4th quarter to earn an advanced regents diploma. I also had 5 > resource room kids, 1 foreign exchange student and at least 6 other kids > that barely passed algebra 1 and geometry with a 65 or 66. I am not try to > boast but my kids totally kicked the exams butt. Not only did all 47 of my > kids pass, but no one scored lower than a 70% and over half of all my kids > reached mastery (85% or better). The mean score was an 84.87 and 27% scored > over a ninty, including a 100%. I was freaking out during the test because > of the frequency average question (#24) and the exact value of sin 75 > question, which w! > e never covered in class except when they specifically ask for sin(A+B). > Even though I didn't cover that style of question, I had at least 4 kids > that got full credit and 4 more that got partial credit. The rest of the > exam was extremely predictable and my kids came out saying that it was easy. > The regents is totally a valid test. There needs to be a couple of tricky > questions that are different from all the other years to seperate the top > students. > I do not teach in a low needs district. i have kids some kids with very > weak math skills and others with terrible home lives. Other teachers and > other schools near by did not do as well. > If you reviewed the same old exams as we did, the difference must be how > you reviewed. The key to my students' success (100% passing 4 years in a > row, 3 Math B's and 1 algebra 2/trig) is in how we review. I put major > pressure on them by grading everything we do and I don't use the curve. > They work hard and see me for extra help or their 4th quarter averages are > extremely low. With maximum effort from the kids, and with a few motivation > talks about earning a "special diploma", the kids do great. > How can you complain about the test when it had a 14 point curve (at the > passing point) and 80 percent of the questions where on the same topics as > the last 3 exams? We were counting on a regression question for 4 points, > and a trig equation for 4 or 6 points, but we didn't get it. If they make > the exam exactly the same every year, it would be too easy. I tell my kids > that only about 70% of the kids in NY State pass this exam and if they work > very hard and listen to me, they will all pass.....and they did. I am very > proud of them, especially the ones that got a 70 when they can't even > multiply single digit numbers without a calculator. > This exam is more than fair, figure out a way to teach and review > better and your scores will go up. > Good luck. > > > > > Thank you for verbalizing what I have been saying to > > myself all day today. > > I am so bummed out  worse results I have ever had. > > I feel I have let down > > my students. I reviewed so much trig and algebra 2 > > skills. I held many > > afterschool and weekend review sessions. Many of my > > borderline students > > were feeling very confident but left the exam feeling > > so defeated. I no > > longer feel the regents is a valid test. I, too, > > will contact state ed. > > > > Mary > > > > > >  Original Message  > > From: "Lin Chen" <calculus1918@gmail.com> > > To: <nyshsmath@mathforum.org> > > Sent: Tuesday, June 21, 2011 5:45 PM > > Subject: Re: RE: Algebra 2/Trig Regents > > > > > > > Did I miss a memo about a new curriculum named > > > > > > "Algebra 1.5 with limited Trig" between Algebra I > > and Algebra II? > > > > > > Sorry, I don't mean to be rude, and I haven't > > complained about most of the > > > Regents exams (last time was the Math B exam that > > was rescaled back in > > > 20042005). > > > > > > Here we are reviewing with the kids the last few > > weeks about Force > > > Problems, Trig Equations, Circles Formulas, > > Regressions, etc... Where were > > > they on the test? Instead, here comes problems > > about finding the average > > > with frequency tables and foiling with fractions on > > part II. > > > > > > I don't feel bad for the slackers, they would have > > struggled either way. > > > What about the limited number of kids that comes to > > review all the time > > > who were confident for this exams BASED on the 4 > > STATE PUBLISHED Exams in > > > the past few years??? Are we trying to penalize > > kids for that or reward > > > the few that are good problem solvers (1 foreign > > exchange student from > > > South Korea scored a 100 on this test). > > > > > > Once again, I am sorry for the rant, guess I > > personally taught the wrong > > > curriculum this year... > > > > > > > > ****************************************************** > > ************* > > > * To unsubscribe from this mailing list, email the > > message > > > * "unsubscribe nyshsmath" to > > majordomo@mathforum.org > > > * > > > * Read prior posts and download attachments from > > the web archives at > > > * http://mathforum.org/kb/forum.jspa?forumID=671 > > > > > ****************************************************** > > ************* > > > > ****************************************************** > > ************* > > * To unsubscribe from this mailing list, email the > > message > > * "unsubscribe nyshsmath" to majordomo@mathforum.org > > * > > * Read prior posts and download attachments from the > > web archives at > > * http://mathforum.org/kb/forum.jspa?forumID=671 > > ****************************************************** > > ************* > ******************************************************************* > * To unsubscribe from this mailing list, email the message > * "unsubscribe nyshsmath" to majordomo@mathforum.org > * > * Read prior posts and download attachments from the web archives at > * http://mathforum.org/kb/forum.jspa?forumID=671 > ******************************************************************* >

