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Topic: Which sample variance should I choose?
Replies: 7   Last Post: Sep 5, 2011 3:50 AM

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 Richard Ulrich Posts: 2,961 Registered: 12/13/04
Re: Which sample variance should I choose?
Posted: Aug 31, 2011 2:32 PM

On Wed, 31 Aug 2011 06:40:22 -0700 (PDT), leoldv <leoldv12@gmail.com>
wrote:

>On Aug 31, 1:06 am, Steven D'Aprano <steve
>+comp.lang.pyt...@pearwood.info> wrote:

>> The population variance is given by:
>>
>> ?^2 = ?(x - µ)^2 / n
>>
>> with µ = population mean, the summation being over all the x in the
>> population.
>>
>> (for brevity, I haven't attempted to show subscript-i on the x).
>>
>> If you don't have the entire population, you can estimate the variance with
>> the sample variance:
>>
>> s^2 = ?(x - m)^2 / n  (Eq. 1)
>>
>> where m = sample mean (usually written as x bar), and the sum is over all
>> the x in the sample. A second estimator is:
>>
>> s^2 = ?(x - m)^2 / (n-1)  (Eq. 2)
>>
>> which some people prefer because it is unbiased (that is, the average of all
>> the possible sample variances equals the true population variance if you
>> use the (n-1) version).
>>
>>
>> I have a set of data with an (allegedly) known population mean µ but an
>> unknown ?^2. I wish to estimate ?^2. Under what circumstances should I
>> prefer Eq.1 over Eq.2?
>>
>> Or should I ignore the sample mean altogether, and plug the known population
>> mean into one of the two equations? I.e.:
>>
>> s^2 = ?(x - µ)^2 / n      (Eq. 3)
>> s^2 = ?(x - µ)^2 / (n-1)  (Eq. 4)
>>
>> Under what circumstances should I prefer each of these four estimators of
>> ?^2 and what are the pros and cons of each?
>>
>>
>> --
>> Steven

>
>If you know mu, the population mean, divide by n.

But if you are cynical about the pop. mean being the pop. mean,
then I suppose you could offer two answers, one using the
observed mean. If you want tests using ANOVA, you use an
unbiased estimate of the variance.

- To a question posted later: No, I don't see any place or
justification for using the population mean in a computation
with (n-1) as denominator.

--
Rich Ulrich

Date Subject Author
8/31/11 Steven D'Aprano
8/31/11 leoldv
8/31/11 Richard Ulrich
8/31/11 Paige Miller
8/31/11 Steven D'Aprano
8/31/11 paulvonhippel at yahoo
9/1/11 Steven D'Aprano
9/5/11 Steven D'Aprano