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Topic: perhaps a better explanation of the Mastodon death trap in

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 plutonium.archimedes@gmail.com Posts: 7,384 Registered: 3/31/08
proof that the mastodons drowned Re: we can rule out the Earthquake-quicksand
Posted: Feb 4, 2012 6:33 AM

A hot bathe always seems to do wonders for me.

I was wondering if I could prove the Mastodons of Snowmass Colorado
breaking the lake ice and drowning versus the hypothesis of earthquake-
quicksand.

I come to realize that a bodies final resting position would be
different for a drowning
compared to a quicksand stuck in place.

If a mastodon drowns, the body will fall to the lake bottom and the
chances would be that
the foot and legs would stick upwards with the body lying on its back
or the body would be sideways.

If the mastodon had died in stuck quicksand the foot and legs would be
on the bottom, and the rest of the skeleton on top, but the feet would
be as if they were still standing.

If my memory is correct from the TV pictures, the fossils were of the
bodies lying with the legs and feet, at least two feet pointing up.

So the lying position of those fossil mastodons can distinguish
whether they died by drowning or by earthquake quicksand, and from the
pictures, it appears they died by drowning.

As for the human cached mastodon, if I remember correctly, half the
skeleton was missing
and a bone had notches in it. I suspect this mastodon died by falling
in the ice and drowning and then a predator came along and pulled 1/2
of the body out on the ice and ate it and the other half slipped back
into the water and sunk. I remember seeing a NATURE show where bears
usually come along on the ice and pull out those carcasses of drowned
herbivores from a ice lake or ice river. and the notches could have
easily been teeth marks by a bear.

Now it looks as though that explanation is the easiest and most
convincing. So one has to wonder what is going on with NOVA that they
insult the world audience with science that is
half thought through? Is it that the scientists involved would know
that a story of mastodon falling through the ice would be not much of
a story and not be put on NOVA, so instead, a
silly theory of earthquake-quicksand would grab attention and
publicity? And the story of human
cache with notches. I would ask the question of whether those notches
were really there in the first place or whether someone was pulling a
prank and carved the notches while others were not looking? I say that
because, it is so simple to see a breaking of the ice drowning yet a
earthquake-quicksand is dreamed up, so that it looks as though the on
site scientists are
not looking for real answers but rather looking to exaggerate a story
that does not need titillation. So, maybe, perhaps on Thursday while
eating my dinner and thinking I was watching
another drab fossil find in Colorado, well, that was the truth after
all.

Am I the only one to notice the poorer and poorer quality of NOVA
shows? What we need is a return of the Mechanical Universe type series
out of Caltech. Seems as though NOVA has become some ad pitch box for
crank and crackpot ideas that are just plain nonscience like Brian
Greene's Fabric of the Cosmos. It used to be where you seldom found a
mistake in a NOVA science show. Nowadays, entire episodes are
nonscience or fake science.

The mastodon dig is mostly science except for the silly theory
offered. So that if the theory had been excised, the rest would have
been good science. So a future episode of the mastodon dig, would
prove that they died by breaking through the ice on the lake and
drowning. It would be like a CSI mystery solved.

Archimedes Plutonium
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whole entire Universe is just one big atom
where dots of the electron-dot-cloud are galaxies