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Topic: Dingle and the Twins' Paradox (Tom and Paul Andersen are wrong)
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Brian Q. Hutchings

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Re: Dingle and the Twins' Paradox (Tom and Paul Andersen are wrong)
Posted: Feb 14, 2012 2:37 PM
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ever since Dirac, we have known that
"atoms have internal (angular) momenta,"
that must be considered relativistically,"
mystical reification of Copenhagenskoolers, or not.

thus:
yeah, the Eemian;
most of the Confirmerists, as well as the Denierists,
really don't bother with "before our little Holocene --
we are then!"

> > Most likely it will rise more as the Greenland ice cap shrinks,
> > as it did in the previous interglacial (Eemian). Perhaps
> > up to 20 feet of additional sea level rise could be expected.


thus:
Morner was merely the president of a committee
of INQUA, devoted to paleoclimate & tide guages,
totally mainstream Quaternary Period studies.

> Morner is quack who believes in water dowsing.

thus:
that the Ptolemaic epicycles were always a hoax,
is manifest in the lack of a really big one,
for the precession of the equinoxes, and
I'm not a God-am Aquarius, either!

> in our universe, what you described never happened.

thus:
the guy who invented carbon-dating retired at my U,;
all of his stuff is probably there, but
I was told of this at a seminar by another Nobeliste
in chemistry, who developed a means of making fuel
from CO2 (say from a coalfired plant) and methane,
which is in commercial tryouts.

it's the oil company's that got the data;
whether or not they draw any obvious conclusion,
who knows, it will probably be in line with their Peack Oil analysis,
with which I must currently concur.

> Please give me an egrigeous source for carbon dating of oil.

thus:
this is a nice metastudy, as far
as retrospective statistics can go. I note that: a)
the nighttime warmth anomaly is duly noted & said to be
coherent with years of modeling; and that b)
there is no hypothesis given for that,
at least in this summary (meaning, perhaps,
it is just shoved into the models, ad hoc;
see _A Vast Machine_ MITPress 2011 .-)

thanks for not playing, folks -- again.

thus quoth:
record daily highs to record daily
lows observed at about 1,800 weather stations
in the 48 contiguous United States from January 1950
through September 2009


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