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Topic: Dingle and the Twins' Paradox (Tom and Paul Andersen are wrong)
Replies: 109   Last Post: Feb 28, 2012 7:38 PM

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 oriel36 Posts: 96 Registered: 7/21/08
Re: Dingle and the Twins' Paradox (Tom and Paul Andersen are wrong)
Posted: Feb 22, 2012 11:36 AM

On Feb 22, 3:31 pm, moro...@world.std.spaamtrap.com (Michael Moroney)
wrote:
> oriel36 <kelleher.ger...@gmail.com> writes:
> >Sirius disappears behind the glare of the Sun as the Earth moves along
> >it orbital circumference so you can't  fully count the number of times
> >it appears however any of the stars of Ursa Major do return to the
> >same spot 365 times in a non leap year and 366 times in a leap year
> >making 1461 times for 4 years or 4 orbital circuits of the Earth.

>
> That's not true.  The stars of Ursa Major return to the same spot
> 366 1/4 times per year, which is 1465 times in four years. Any astronomer
> who knows how to find a star knows this.
>

Strange,strange people.

The flooding of the Nile and the seasonal re-appearance of Sirius to
the same position requires an extra day after every 4 years of 365
days.These great astronomers are telling you they are using the star
Sirius as a reference for the annual cycle of the Earth and making the
correct judgement that a continuous sequence of 365 days will not
bring Sirius back to the same position but an extra day after every
4th year will keep the days and annual cycles in sync.As all the
effects of rotation such as temperature rises and falls due to
rotation occur within a 24 hour period,including February 29th,a
reasonable society would maintain the cause and effect as 1461

> >It
> >means that the discrete value of 23 hours 56 minutes 04 seconds is
> >based on the average 24 hour day within the 365/366 day format.

>
> 1 year/(23 hours 56 minutes 4 seconds) is very close to 366.25, or 366
> times in non leap years, 367 times in a leap year.

Any star will cross the same meridian 365 times in 365 days and 366
times in 366 days making 1461 times in 4 years for this is the
observation by which the Egyptians determined the requirement of an
additional day using Sirius and the seasonal event of the flooding of
the Nile to pin the rotations of the Earth to its orbital cycle for
even if they had no idea of daily and orbital motions,who could
possibly object to 1461 rotations/4 orbital circuits corresponding to
1461 days/4 years and especially with February 29th approaching.

If you cannot get into the language of this then just say so ,the
parent observation using the return of Sirius to the same position in
1461 days as opposed to 1461 days can be reduced to 365 1/4 rotations
per circuit as an extraneous fact but as the original astronomers
simply formatted the 1461 observation into 3 years of 365 days and 1
year of 366 days,it only takes a brief detour into the AM/PM
designations that straddle the difference between the continuous
stream of natural noon cycles and the continuous stream of 24 hour
days.

1465 rotations in 1461 days is an intellectual abomination fit for
nobody.

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