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Re: Stephen Hawking's science doesn't work....
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Feb 28, 2012 2:52 PM
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On 2/28/2012 11:46 AM, microm2011@hotmail.com wrote: > On Feb 28, 11:42 am, DanielSan<danielsan1...@gmail.com> wrote: >> On 2/28/2012 11:39 AM, microm2...@hotmail.com wrote: >> >> >> >> >> >>> On Feb 28, 11:33 am, DanielSan<danielsan1...@gmail.com> wrote: >>>> On 2/28/2012 11:25 AM, microm2...@hotmail.com wrote: >> >>>>> On Feb 27, 8:53 pm, DanielSan<danielsan1...@gmail.com> wrote: >>>>>> On 2/27/2012 5:19 PM, microm2...@hotmail.com wrote: >> >>>>>>> On Feb 27, 2:51 pm, DanielSan<danielsan1...@gmail.com> wrote: >>>>>>>> On 2/27/2012 11:55 AM, microm2...@hotmail.com wrote: >> >>>>>>>>> On Feb 26, 6:42 pm, DanielSan<danielsan1...@gmail.com> wrote: >>>>>>>>>> On 2/26/2012 6:35 PM, microm2...@hotmail.com wrote: >> >>>>>>>>>>> On Feb 26, 6:29 pm, DanielSan<danielsan1...@gmail.com> wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>> On 2/26/2012 6:20 PM, microm2...@hotmail.com wrote: >> >>>>>>>>>>>>> On Feb 26, 6:05 pm, DanielSan<danielsan1...@gmail.com> wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 2/26/2012 6:00 PM, microm2...@hotmail.com wrote: >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Feb 25, 11:53 pm, DanielSan<danielsan1...@gmail.com> wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 2/25/2012 8:51 PM, microm2...@hotmail.com wrote: >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Feb 25, 8:47 pm, DanielSan<danielsan1...@gmail.com> wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 2/25/2012 8:10 PM, microm2...@hotmail.com wrote: >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Feb 25, 6:21 pm, DanielSan<danielsan1...@gmail.com> wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 2/25/2012 5:38 PM, microm2...@hotmail.com wrote: >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Feb 24, 7:09 pm, sbalneav<sbaln...@alburg.net> wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 12-02-24 09:02 PM, microm2...@hotmail.com wrote: >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Feb 24, 6:59 pm, sbalneav<sbaln...@alburg.net> wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 12-02-24 08:37 PM, microm2...@hotmail.com wrote: >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Feb 24, 6:28 pm, sbalneav<sbaln...@alburg.net> wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 12-02-24 08:06 PM, microm2...@hotmail.com wrote: >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> For exploding black holes... >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> An equal amount of positive energy would fall in over time. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> He says there is negative energy which is really nonsense. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> But even if you take it serious a black hole won't decay. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> There would be a form of thermal equilibrium by positive and negative >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> falling in balanced in time... >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> What's this thing you have for Hawking? Did his wheelchair run >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> over your toe one time, or like what? >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I am aware that he is aginst me no matter if he wants it >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> to look like it or not.. It is only now that I will fight. >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> By posting on Usenet? How do you think that's going to stop >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> him? >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> He has had his time... >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Are you a supervillan? >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> He is a timekeeper and a dangerous authority. >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> A timekeeper? Dangerous? He's an old man in a wheelchair. >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Anyone who will start a war of science against religion >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> is off of their rocker... religion is just as guilty of >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> going to the extreme unfortunately... >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Religion lost that war a long time ago. It was called >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> "The Enlightenment" and "The Renaissance". >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Hawking ought to leave innocent religious people alone. >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Yeah, because an old man in a wheelchair expressing his >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> opinion's really bothering the religious. >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> He should be forced to... >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> You could have an Epic Rap Battle with him: >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zn7-fVtT16k >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Mitchell Raemsch- Hide quoted text - >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> - Show quoted text - >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Stalker... >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Yeah, we know you are. Leave Hawking alone!- Hide quoted text - >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> - Show quoted text - >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Whose brave enough to take an objective shot at Hawking!? >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> His MO is intimidation >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> He can barely move anymore because of his disability. What >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> "intimidation" are you referring to? >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> and he has been put up as an authority >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> by the world. Something Einstein would have nothing to do with. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Why should I let Hawking intimidate me? >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I am big deal... >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Mitchell Raemsch; the shared prize...with Alia Sabur- Hide quoted text - >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> - Show quoted text -- Hide quoted text - >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> - Show quoted text - >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> What else but his intellectual intimidating dan? >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> His intellect intimidates you? Is that because he can debate you under >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> the table without so much as even thinking about it? >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> He tried to pull that off with Alia Sabur but she >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> wasn't going for it either... >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I haven't heard of this. Can you show it? >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Alia Sabur And Mitch Raemsch - God Bless America!!! >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Dan... >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> You're an idiot! >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Yet you can't show how.- Hide quoted text - >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> - Show quoted text - >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> The how is that you are going to continue to follow me around!!! >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I think everyone expects it... >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I respond to you and to whomever I please. I am no more following you >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> than I am anyone else. Cut the ego trip; you're not that special.- Hide quoted text - >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> - Show quoted text - >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> The point is why are you responding to me? >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> Because you're posting to a newsgroup I read. >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> What have I done? >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> Posted something I wanted to respond to. >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Hawking's a timekeeper who started something dangerous. Period. >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> Like what? >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Right in science needs to clean it up. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> It is lunacy to create a war of religion and science. >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> For example? >> >>>>>>>>>>>>> His book exemplifies it... >> >>>>>>>>>>>> For example? >> >>>>>>>>>>>>> I consider hawking as a failed scientist who is an authority >>>>>>>>>>>>> and a timekeeper not willing to accept that science is going forward >>>>>>>>>>>>> for the longest time. His idea that he would solve all >>>>>>>>>>>>> of science in twenty years said twenty years ago is just hubris. >> >>>>>>>>>>>> You can't even cite this assertion, can you? >> >>>>>>>>>>>>> And of course he repeated he would solve all of science again... >>>>>>>>>>>>> but in another twenty years... >> >>>>>>>>>>>> Or this. >> >>>>>>>>>>>>> He is the lunatic scientist that proposed we would have to solve our >>>>>>>>>>>>> problems by way of populating what never will be. That is living on >>>>>>>>>>>>> the Moon and beyond... >> >>>>>>>>>>>> We haven't done it, but that doesn't make Hawking a lunatic. >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> Such as....? >> >>>>>>>>>>>>> Einstein said the atheists authorities were his problem by >>>>>>>>>>>>> misrepresenting him... >> >>>>>>>>>>>> [citation needed] >> >>>>>>>>>>>>> He was right. God does not play dice with the universe. >> >>>>>>>>>>>> "It was, of course, a lie what you read about my religious convictions, >>>>>>>>>>>> a lie which is being systematically repeated. I do not believe in a >>>>>>>>>>>> personal God and I have never denied this but have expressed it clearly. >>>>>>>>>>>> If something is in me which can be called religious then it is the >>>>>>>>>>>> unbounded admiration for the structure of the world so far as our >>>>>>>>>>>> science can reveal it."- Hide quoted text - >> >>>>>>>>>>>> - Show quoted text - >> >>>>>>>>>>> He believed in an impersonal God. >> >>>>>>>>>> He called himself an agnostic and a believer in "Spinoza's God" >> >>>>>>>>>>> You are one person who would represent this same problem for him. >> >>>>>>>>>> Yet you can't show that I would. >> >>>>>>>>>>> Einstein said his enemy were the atheists by misrepresenting him. >> >>>>>>>>>> You can't show that he said that either. >> >>>>>>>>>>> Einstein was not an atheist... >> >>>>>>>>>> Didn't say he was. >> >>>>>>>>> Then what is your argument? >> >>>>>>>> That Einstein didn't believe in a personal God. >> >>>>>>> And why is that important? >> >>>>>> You thought it was.- Hide quoted text - >> >>>>>> - Show quoted text - >> >>>>> It takes two to tango... >>>>> The point is he believed in A God. >> >>>> So what? And why is that important?- Hide quoted text - >> >>>> - Show quoted text - >> >>> Because it is reality... >> >> Yeesh. So why is what he believed about a deity relevant?- Hide quoted text - >> >> - Show quoted text - > > He said that the atheists were his problem by misrepresenting him on > that account.... > > What do you have to say to that?
I would like to see his words, in context, before I speak on it further.
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