Drexel dragonThe Math ForumDonate to the Math Forum



Search All of the Math Forum:

Views expressed in these public forums are not endorsed by Drexel University or The Math Forum.


Math Forum » Discussions » sci.math.* » sci.math.independent

Topic: Definition of Mathematics
Replies: 62   Last Post: Mar 6, 2012 1:22 PM

Advanced Search

Back to Topic List Back to Topic List Jump to Tree View Jump to Tree View   Messages: [ Previous | Next ]
David Yen

Posts: 630
Registered: 3/1/11
Re: Definition of Mathematics
Posted: Feb 28, 2012 9:37 PM
  Click to see the message monospaced in plain text Plain Text   Click to reply to this topic Reply

Has anyone actually learned how to parse Godel's sentence? What if he means that there exists a G that is not provable in T? But, I already know that axioms are not provable. If axioms are provable, they are not axioms anymore. So, if G is just an element not provable in T, just make that G an axiom if it is that important. If that G is not important, then my theory is fine without it provable. So what?

So, what do you mean by consistency anyway? There exists not a G in T such that G is both true and false? Then, not only do we need to define all axioms, but we also have to define all rules of composition, which involve substitution. Are you ready to write down the complete set of all your grammars as a starting point?

If not, we can't even write a compiler for your theory, not to mention the ability to check its consistency!

If we cannot even get past this point of discussion, then our understanding of consistency is fairly shallow if not incorrect.


Date Subject Author
2/27/12
Read Definition of Mathematics
Zaljohar@gmail.com
2/27/12
Read Re: Definition of Mathematics
Jim Burns
2/28/12
Read Re: Definition of Mathematics
Zaljohar@gmail.com
3/3/12
Read Re: Definition of Mathematics
Charlie-Boo
2/27/12
Read Re: Definition of Mathematics
LudovicoVan
2/28/12
Read Re: Definition of Mathematics
Shmuel (Seymour J.) Metz
2/28/12
Read Re: Definition of Mathematics
Tony Bones Orlow
2/29/12
Read Re: Definition of Mathematics
MoeBlee
2/29/12
Read Re: Definition of Mathematics
LudovicoVan
2/29/12
Read Re: Definition of Mathematics
microm2011@hotmail.com
2/29/12
Read Re: Definition of Mathematics
LudovicoVan
2/29/12
Read Re: Definition of Mathematics
MoeBlee
2/29/12
Read Re: Definition of Mathematics
LudovicoVan
3/3/12
Read Re: Definition of Mathematics
Charlie-Boo
3/3/12
Read Re: Definition of Mathematics
Charlie-Boo
2/27/12
Read Re: Definition of Mathematics
namducnguyen
2/28/12
Read Re: Definition of Mathematics
Frederick Williams
2/28/12
Read Re: Definition of Mathematics
namducnguyen
2/27/12
Read Re: Definition of Mathematics
Tony Bones Orlow
2/28/12
Read Re: Definition of Mathematics
Frederick Williams
2/28/12
Read Re: Definition of Mathematics
Tony Bones Orlow
2/28/12
Read Re: Definition of Mathematics
Ki Song
2/28/12
Read Re: Definition of Mathematics
Tony Bones Orlow
2/28/12
Read Re: Definition of Mathematics
Ki Song
2/29/12
Read Re: Definition of Mathematics
Frederick Williams
2/29/12
Read Re: Definition of Mathematics
Frederick Williams
2/29/12
Read Re: Definition of Mathematics
MoeBlee
3/3/12
Read Re: Definition of Mathematics
Charlie-Boo
3/4/12
Read Re: Definition of Mathematics
Tony Bones Orlow
2/27/12
Read Re: Definition of Mathematics
ruffin
2/28/12
Read Re: Definition of Mathematics
Zaljohar@gmail.com
2/28/12
Read Re: Definition of Mathematics
Zaljohar@gmail.com
2/28/12
Read Re: Definition of Mathematics
Zaljohar@gmail.com
2/28/12
Read Re: Definition of Mathematics
G. A. Edgar
2/28/12
Read Re: Definition of Mathematics
G. A. Edgar
3/3/12
Read Re: Definition of Mathematics
Charlie-Boo
3/3/12
Read Re: Definition of Mathematics
namducnguyen
2/28/12
Read Re: Definition of Mathematics
Frederick Williams
2/28/12
Read Re: Definition of Mathematics
Zaljohar@gmail.com
2/28/12
Read Re: Definition of Mathematics
David Yen
2/28/12
Read Re: Definition of Mathematics
David Yen
2/28/12
Read Re: Definition of Mathematics
ruffin
2/29/12
Read Re: Definition of Mathematics
David Yen
3/1/12
Read Re: Definition of Mathematics
ruffin
3/1/12
Read Re: Definition of Mathematics
David Yen
3/1/12
Read Re: Definition of Mathematics
David Yen
3/4/12
Read Re: Definition of Mathematics
David Yen
3/4/12
Read Re: Definition of Mathematics
David Yen
2/29/12
Read Re: Definition of Mathematics
Jim Burns
3/2/12
Read Re: Definition of Mathematics
Zaljohar@gmail.com
3/4/12
Read Re: Definition of Mathematics
Jim Burns
3/4/12
Read Re: Definition of Mathematics
Tony Bones Orlow
3/2/12
Read Re: Definition of Mathematics
Frederick Williams
3/2/12
Read Re: Definition of Mathematics
Jim Burns
3/2/12
Read Re: Definition of Mathematics
Zaljohar@gmail.com
3/3/12
Read Re: Definition of Mathematics
Charlie-Boo
3/5/12
Read Re: Definition of Mathematics
Dan Christensen
3/5/12
Read Re: Definition of Mathematics
Frederick Williams
3/5/12
Read Re: Definition of Mathematics
Transfer Principle
3/6/12
Read Re: Definition of Mathematics
Jim Burns
3/6/12
Read Re: Definition of Mathematics
Rotwang
3/6/12
Read Re: Definition of Mathematics
Michael Stemper
3/6/12
Read Re: Definition of Mathematics
Frederick Williams

Point your RSS reader here for a feed of the latest messages in this topic.

[Privacy Policy] [Terms of Use]

© Drexel University 1994-2013. All Rights Reserved.
The Math Forum is a research and educational enterprise of the Drexel University School of Education.