On Fri, Mar 16, 2012 at 9:24 PM, Robert Hansen <email@example.com> wrote:
> Even if we use your standard Paul, AP is broken.
BS. You argue that because the distribution of the nationwide passing rate is not evenly distributed, then it's broken. One whale of a fallacious argument.
> > You can see why I am not that thrilled about expanding the AP program (as it is).
The alternative is what?
> > Haim said it awhile ago. Start giving students the grade they earned. >
This is the alternative?
One might as well say that, as "the answer" to ever increasing obesity rates, everyone should stop overeating and expect that to happen as if by magic.
Wayne is right. External assessments, warts and all, is the only way to have any hope of getting a handle on grade inflation.
Giving up on external assessment is to give up all hope.
And there needs to be more external assessments that are national. Otherwise, there is no way to keep grade inflation in terms of states padding their own tests, which is happening more and more because we've let the states do it in terms of the NCLB testing.
In other words, "external" means "nonlocal", where the most local testing is in the classroom, then less local is school-wide testing, then district testing, then state testing, then national testing. At the level of a nation, the various national tests, warts and all, are the best thing going to see what's actually happening.
The AP program is showing that more and more are enrolling in classes at advanced levels and becoming educated well at advanced levels, even though it is at the cost of more and more enrolling in these classes that they should not be taking. Perhaps there be should be some mechanism to discourage those who should not be taking these classes from taking them, to keep the nationwide passing rates from becoming ever lower without end. But to throw the baby out with the bathwater is a bad idea.