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Re: Appeal For Intellectual Integrity
Posted:
Mar 21, 2012 2:28 PM
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On Wed, Mar 21, 2012 at 2:24 AM, Paul Tanner <upprho@gmail.com> wrote:
> On Wed, Mar 21, 2012 at 12:05 AM, kirby urner <kirby.urner@gmail.com> wrote:
>> On Tue, Mar 20, 2012 at 4:47 PM, Haim <hpipik@netzero.com> wrote:
>>> Paul A. Tanner, III Posted: Mar 20, 2012 9:57 AM
>>>
>>> http://mathforum.org/kb/message.jspa?messageID=7749186&tstart=0
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>> To a point. I've thought of going back to fix broken URLs. But be
>> aware that any reply to a post freezes it. If you're concerned to
>> nail a particular squib, then reply to it directly.
>>
>> Acknowledged: Reply to be email is not a guarantee of showing up as a
>> reply in the archive -- sometimes they get strung out. Replying to
>> through the web interface itself is maybe a safer bet, when you want
>> to put the lid on some coffin.
>>
>> I tend to post, then polish on-line, as I invariably catch a few
>> things. Sometimes I'll uncheck the "edited by" box, but either way I
>> note my changes propel a posting to the top of the archive (there's a
>> modification date driving that).
>>
>> So if you want to accumulate evidence of tampering with "the record"....
>>
>> However, there's really no way you should be treating this archive as
>> if those features did not or never existed.
>>
>> No one promised you, the pseudonymous hero, the Zorro against the
>> Education Mafia, that this was your sandbox for building some kind of
>> legal case for the courts.
>>
>> These are the wilds of the Internet, not some corporate board room
>> office with everything memo-ized and stenographed.
>>
>> You / we ain't paid enough for that level of service me thinks. Plus
>> it's fine to be fixing those typos.
>>
>> Kirby
>>
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> If a message is replied to via email, then that message can no longer
> be edited, and the reply is properly indented (or sometimes orphaned).
> If that message is replied to via the web or is not replied to at all,
> then that message can still be edited and any reply is put at the
> bottom of the thread (or is sometimes orphaned). The originally posted
> message before any edit is sent to the inbox of everyone on the list.
Another thing: Not only is it so that only a list member can edit
his/her own messages if they have not been replied to via email, any
list member can make sure if he/she wishes that the original message
from any author before any editing can at any time be made "part of
the historical record" simply by replying to that original message by
said author as it appears in said list member's inbox. This holds even
if the original message has been edited by said author.
This poster posting not under his/her real name but under the name of
"Haim Pipik" cries "Foul!" with respect to integrity when his/her
opponents merely take full advantage of all the rules of the game. Yet
this person affirms vicious, racist ideas* directly or via implication
and utterly refuses to recant or apologize for them even though
repeatedly asked to do so. Recall the famous saying:
"Why do you look at the speck that is in your brother's eye, but do
not notice the log that is in your own eye? Or how can you say to your
brother, 'Let me take the speck out of your eye,' and behold, the log
is in your own eye? You hypocrite, first take the log out of your own
eye, and then you will see clearly to take the speck out of your
brother's eye."
Indeed.
* The vicious, racist ideas in question are, in order from most
recently put forth by Haim, that black people do not care as much for
their kids' educations as white people, that kids in their 90% black
and Hispanic school district are rats in a rat hole (he never talked
about white school districts like this) and that darker-skinned people
should not be allowed to come to the US because of their bad hygiene
(he never talked about lighter skinned people like this). The reader
can see all of these ideas affirmed directly or via implication by
Haim in their original contexts by following the links I give starting
in my post
"Re: Clear Creek TX sch. board resolution vs. high-stakes testing"
http://mathforum.org/kb/message.jspa?messageID=7748773&tstart=0
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