On Thu, Mar 22, 2012 at 10:10 PM, Haim <email@example.com> wrote: > Since the list moderator seems content to allow, even to promote, the topics near to Paul's heart...
My addressing Haim's racist affirmations was the subject of the post of mine that he had a problem with - he actually linked to this post of mine in his original post of this thread. So he should not blame the moderator for allowing me to address those racist affirmations in posts like
Conservatism has a long tradition of racism, even white supremacy. Even the biggest names in conservative commentary over the years, like James Kilpatrick and even the early William F. Buckley, Jr., affirmed that blacks are inherently inferior to whites. Conservatives who hold to this racist notion just love to cite any published literature they can find that they think backs up their racist ideas about blacks. Like studies showing less "involvement" by black parents in their kids' educations than white parents.
But this literature that "shows" less "involvement" by black parents may itself suffer from cultural bias and therefore "shows" less - perhaps very much less - involvement by black parents than there actually is, according to many other published studies such as the following:
Quote: "The authors used data from the National Household Education Surveys (NHES) Program 2007 Parent and Family Involvement in Education Survey (National Center for Education Statistics, 2007) (N=10,681) to examine household income, gender, and race of parents, and their importance in shaping parental involvement in children's education. The study finds that when accounting for tutoring that: (1) Pacific Islander mothers have the highest odds of being involved in their child's homework; (2) Black fathers have the highest odds of being involved in their child's homework; and (3) Low household incomes (compared to high household incomes) have the highest odds of being involved in their child's homework. This study supports previous research on "nontraditional parental involvement," as well as previous research regarding high African American parental involvement."
What started all this was my point that the main reason for grade inflation in k12 was parental pressure having its effect gradually over the years. Haim implied with his reply that this parental pressure over time can't explain grade inflation with respect to black students because, by these studies on parental "involvement", the total parental involvement from black parents over all this time must be too incredibly low to result in the kind of pressure that over time results in grade inflation like it does for white students via pressure from their parents. See my reply to his claim:
Again: The racist idea that Haim is trying to promote is in the form of a certain implication he is trying to make from this published and now shown to be probably biased set of studies wrongly showing less "involvement" by black parents. That is, this racist implication is that the total amount of black parental involvement over the years must be so fantastically low that it cannot possibly result in any pressure that could ever result in grade inflation over the years for black kids in the same way that this type of parental pressure over the years from white parents results in grade inflation over the years for white kids. I'm sorry, but the leap from studies that probably suffer from cultural bias and so perhaps even severely underestimate black involvement in their kids' educations to the idea that black involvement must be so fantastically low as just described is a racist leap.
Side note: Here is a study that will raise some eyebrows, relevant to this thread since it's about integrity:
Quote: "This study finds significant differences between white and nonwhite teens in the extent to which they value integrity. The Integrity Scale (IS) is based on items from the High School Effectiveness Study, the metropolitan supplement to the National Education Longitudinal Study, and includes questions about cheating on tests, disobeying school rules, copying other students' homework, cutting classes, and being late for school. With various statistical controls, white students score lowest and black students highest, with Hispanics and Asians scoring about average. The interpretation for whites' low scores is that they desire to maintain their traditional privileges in increasing pluralistic high schools, and this is consistent with, for example, cheating on tests. The interpretation for blacks' high scores is that they routinely experience the racism of excessive scrutiny, and, therefore, adopt the most transparent behaviors, which is consistent with their placing a high value on integrity and honesty."
Finally, this recent episode in Florida where a non-black man ran down and shot to death an unarmed black teenager who committed no crime, yet was not arrested for this, is just further proof of the psychological oppression that blacks live under every day of their lives from those who have racist attitudes in the US. Blacks have to live by a different set of rules in the US. Store detectives follow them around in stores simply because they are black; police treat them differently than whites, and on and on, including neighborhood watch people running them down merely because they are black and so "shouldn't be there". Yes, racists deny all this, but that's just par for the course for them.
In light of all this: The last thing math-teach needs is people trying to get away with the promoting of racist ideas, piling even more racist BS onto the pile of racist BS that blacks in America have to endure. That's why I choose to not look the other way any more when I see racist ideas even subtly put forth here at math-teach. I will address it and call it for what it is and insist on an apology from those who promote it. And so I say to Haim:
You can try to invent BS out of thin air to try to justify or deflect attention from the racist ideas you put forth and stand by, but I again will reply by sticking to the point and insisting that you do the right thing that conscience demands especially in the wake of the killing in Florida and apologize for contributing to the increasing racist climate in the US by apologizing for each of the racist ideas you have put forth here at math-teach (that I catalog in my posts including the above, the most recent of these racist ideas I clarify above).