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Wayne Mackey

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Re: MLCS Webinar on April 24: Registration Open
Posted: Apr 8, 2012 9:37 PM

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I agree that functions are much more useful in everyday life.

wayne

Quoting Guy Brandenburg <gfbrandenburg@yahoo.com>:
>> Electric bills aren't necessarily exactly proportional to the kwh
> > used. And does 16 cents really matter anyway?
> >
> > Guy
> >
> > On Apr 5, 2012, at 1:27 PM, Ed Laughbaum
> > <elaughba@math.ohio-state.edu> wrote:
> >
> >> Hi Clyde,
> >>
> >> A couple things...
> >>
> >> I am glad I could give you a segue to one of your issues that needs
> >> discussion - from a posting earlier today. Greenspan & Shanker
> >> used the example of teaching the concept of a tax using a pizza and
> >> M & M's used to teach addition as an emotional (or personal)
> >> contextual situation. This is what I had in mind, but certainly
> >> agree with your position.
> >>
> >> Relative to this post, I have observed that I often see the
> >> mathematical literacy proponents argue for proportional reasoning as
> >> a mainstay outcome. This in turn, reminded me (recall through neural
> >> associations) of an informal survey I took on several colleagues who
> >> were not in any of the STEM fields but all had a bachelors degree
> >> through a PhD. In the following "problem" everyone used
> >> proportional reasoning.
> >>
> >> If you use 1205 kWh of electricity and your bill is $130, how much
> >> is your monthly bill if you use 1225 kWh? Everyone got $132.16 for
> >> the answer when it is $132.
> >>
> >> What I wonder is, if focusing on proportional reasoning will solve
> >> this very simple problem (of thinking relationships are
> >> proportional), or whether we should be focusing on function. Or
> >> something else? Of course, my opinion is on function, but it is an
> >> opinion.
> >>
> >> Regards,
> >>
> >> Ed
> >> ===========================================
> >> On 4/5/2012 12:27 PM, Clyde Greeno wrote:
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> --------------------------------------------------
> >>> From: "Clyde Greeno" <clydegreeno@cox.net>
> >>> Sent: Thursday, April 05, 2012 11:17 AM
> >>> To: "Linda Zientek" <lrzientek@yahoo.com>; "AMATYC DMC"
> >>> <amatyc-dmc@googlegroups.com>
> >>> Subject: Re: MLCS Webinar on April 24: Registration Open
> >>>
> >>>>
> >>>> Webinar description, as posted:
> >>>> "Mathematical Literacy for College Students (MLCS) is a new course
> >>>> that is part of an AMATYC initiative called New Life for
> >>>> Developmental Math as well as the Carnegie Quantway project. It
> >>>> is an innovative way to redesign the developmental curriculum,
> >>>> providing pathways for the non-STEM student. The course uses
> >>>> integrated, contextual lessons to develop conceptual understanding
> >>>> and technology to improve mastery of skills. In one semester, a
> >>>> student placing into beginning algebra will gain the mathematical
> >>>> maturity to be successful in statistics, liberal arts math, or
> >>>> intermediate algebra. Reading, writing, critical thinking, and
> >>>> problem solving are key components to reaching that goal. Webinar
> >>>> participants will learn much more about the course as well as
> >>>> receive ideas for course development including a sample course
> >>>> outline and a sample lesson. "
> >>>> =================
> >>>> Excerpt about "Position paper":
> >>>> " ... the appropriate preparation that all students should receive
> >>>> in developmental math courses. "??
> >>>> ================
> >>>>
> >>>> As yet, I have seen no indication that "Mathematical Literacy for
> >>>> College Students" ... or any other "reformed" course ... has
> >>>> addressed the need for empowering American adults with strong
> >>>> *conceptual understanding* of K-basicAlgebra mathematics ... so
> >>>> that they can make school mathematics fully commonsensible to
> >>>> children. Most college students are "pre-service" parents ... and
> >>>> most of the rest are "in-service" parents. The vast majority
> >>>> arrive at college with little mathematical comprehension of K-8
> >>>> mathematics ... and colleges typically have not provided it (even
> >>>> to pre-service/in-service teachers) ... which explains why the
> >>>> schools do/can not do so.
> >>>>
> >>>> How can we speak of "mathematical literacy" of adults who cannot
> >>>> make personal common sense of K-8 mathematics?
> >>>>
> >>>> Hopefully,
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>> Clyde Greeno,
> >>>> Academic Director and
> >>>> Clinical Professor of Mathematics Instruction
> >>>> The American Institute for the Improvement
> >>>> of Mathematics Learning and Instruction
> >>>> P.O. Box 54845
> >>>> Tulsa, OK 74155
> >>>> Tel: 918-836-6284
> >>>> e-mail: greeno@malei.org
> >>>> website: www.malei.org[1]
> >>>>
> >>>> --------------------------------------------------
> >>>> From: "Linda Zientek" <lrzientek@yahoo.com>
> >>>> Sent: Thursday, April 05, 2012 9:55 AM
> >>>> To: "AMATYC DMC" <amatyc-dmc@googlegroups.com>
> >>>> Subject: MLCS Webinar on April 24: Registration Open
> >>>>
> >>>>> Registration for Kathleen Almy's webinar is open. This is an AMATYC
> >>>>> DMC sponsored webinar.
> >>>>>
> >>>>> New Pathways for Developmental Math: A Look into
> Mathematical Literacy
> >>>>> for College Students
> >>>>> Tuesday April 24 at 3 EST/2 CST
> >>>>>
> >>>>> For more information, visit the DMC website:
> >>>>> https://sites.google.com/site/amatycdmc/
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Thanks,
> >>>>> Linda Zientek
> >>>>> DMC Chair
> >>>>
> >>>
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> >>>
> ****************************************************************************
> >>
> >> --
> >> Edward Laughbaum www.math.osu.edu/~laughbaum.6/[2]
> >> The Ohio State University
> >> 231 West 18th Avenue
> >> Columbus, OH 43210
> >>
> >>
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I agree that functions are much more useful in everyday life. 
 
wayne 
 
Quoting Guy Brandenburg <<a href="mailto:gfbrandenburg@yahoo.com">gfbrandenburg@yahoo.com</a>>:
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> Electric bills aren't necessarily exactly proportional to the kwh 
> used. And does 16 cents really matter anyway? 
> 
> Guy 
> 
> On Apr 5, 2012, at 1:27 PM, Ed Laughbaum 
> <<a href="mailto:elaughba@math.ohio-state.edu">elaughba@math.ohio-state.edu</a>> wrote: 
> 
>> Hi Clyde, 
>> 
>> A couple things... 
>> 
>> I am glad I could give you a segue to one of your issues that needs 
>> discussion - from a posting earlier today.  Greenspan & Shanker 
>> used the example of teaching the concept of a tax using a pizza and 
>> M & M's used to teach addition as an emotional (or personal) 
>> contextual situation. This is what I had in mind, but certainly 
>> agree with your position. 
>> 
>> Relative to this post, I have observed that I often see the 
>> mathematical literacy proponents argue for proportional reasoning as 
>> a mainstay outcome. This in turn, reminded me (recall through neural 
>> associations) of an informal survey I took on several colleagues who 
>> were not in any of the STEM fields but all had a bachelors degree 
>> through a PhD.  In the following "problem" everyone used 
>> proportional reasoning. 
>> 
>> If you use 1205 kWh of electricity and your bill is $130, how much 
>> is your monthly bill if you use 1225 kWh? Everyone got $132.16 for 
>> the answer when it is $132. 
>> 
>> What I wonder is, if focusing on proportional reasoning will solve 
>> this very simple problem (of thinking relationships are 
>> proportional), or whether we should be focusing on function. Or 
>> something else? Of course, my opinion is on function, but it is an 
>> opinion. 
>> 
>> Regards, 
>> 
>> Ed 
>>  =========================================== 
>> On 4/5/2012 12:27 PM, Clyde Greeno wrote: 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> -------------------------------------------------- 
>>> From: "Clyde Greeno" <<a href="mailto:clydegreeno@cox.net">clydegreeno@cox.net</a>> 
>>> Sent: Thursday, April 05, 2012 11:17 AM 
>>> To: "Linda Zientek" <<a href="mailto:lrzientek@yahoo.com">lrzientek@yahoo.com</a>>; "AMATYC DMC" 
>>> <<a href="mailto:amatyc-dmc@googlegroups.com">amatyc-dmc@googlegroups.com</a>> 
>>> Subject: Re: MLCS Webinar on April 24: Registration Open 
>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> Webinar description, as posted: 
>>>> "Mathematical Literacy for College Students (MLCS) is a new course 
>>>> that is part of an AMATYC initiative called New Life for 
>>>> Developmental Math as well as the Carnegie Quantway project.  It 
>>>> is an innovative way to redesign the developmental curriculum, 
>>>> providing pathways for the non-STEM student.  The course uses 
>>>> integrated, contextual lessons to develop conceptual understanding 
>>>> and technology to improve mastery of skills.  In one semester, a 
>>>> student placing into beginning algebra will gain the mathematical 
>>>> maturity to be successful in statistics, liberal arts math, or 
>>>> intermediate algebra. Reading, writing, critical thinking, and 
>>>> problem solving are key components to reaching that goal. Webinar 
>>>> participants will learn much more about the course as well as 
>>>> receive ideas for course development including a sample course 
>>>> outline and a sample lesson. " 
>>>> ================= 
>>>> Excerpt about "Position paper": 
>>>> " ... the appropriate preparation that all students should receive 
>>>> in developmental math courses. "?? 
>>>> ================ 
>>>> 
>>>> As yet, I have seen no indication that "Mathematical Literacy for 
>>>> College Students" ... or any other "reformed" course ... has 
>>>> addressed the need for empowering American adults with strong  
>>>> *conceptual understanding* of K-basicAlgebra mathematics  ... so 
>>>> that they can make school mathematics fully commonsensible to 
>>>> children. Most college students  are "pre-service" parents ... and 
>>>> most of the rest are "in-service" parents. The vast majority 
>>>> arrive at college with little mathematical comprehension of K-8 
>>>> mathematics ... and colleges typically have not provided it (even 
>>>> to pre-service/in-service teachers) ... which explains why the 
>>>> schools do/can not do so. 
>>>> 
>>>> How can we speak of "mathematical literacy" of adults who cannot 
>>>> make personal common sense of K-8 mathematics? 
>>>> 
>>>> Hopefully, 
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> Clyde Greeno, 
>>>> Academic Director and 
>>>> Clinical Professor of Mathematics Instruction 
>>>> The American Institute for the Improvement 
>>>> of Mathematics Learning and Instruction 
>>>> P.O. Box 54845 
>>>> Tulsa, OK 74155 
>>>> Tel: 918-836-6284 
>>>> e-mail: <a href="mailto:greeno@malei.org">greeno@malei.org</a> 
>>>> website: <a href="http://www.malei.org" target="_blank">www.malei.org</a> 
>>>> 
>>>> -------------------------------------------------- 
>>>> From: "Linda Zientek" <<a href="mailto:lrzientek@yahoo.com">lrzientek@yahoo.com</a>> 
>>>> Sent: Thursday, April 05, 2012 9:55 AM 
>>>> To: "AMATYC DMC" <<a href="mailto:amatyc-dmc@googlegroups.com">amatyc-dmc@googlegroups.com</a>> 
>>>> Subject: MLCS Webinar on April 24: Registration Open 
>>>> 
>>>>> Registration for Kathleen Almy's webinar is open. This is an AMATYC 
>>>>> DMC sponsored webinar. 
>>>>> 
>>>>> New Pathways for Developmental Math: A Look into Mathematical Literacy 
>>>>> for College Students 
>>>>> Tuesday April 24 at 3 EST/2 CST 
>>>>> 
>>>>> For more information, visit the DMC website: 
>>>>> <a href="https://sites.google.com/site/amatycdmc/" target="_blank">https://sites.google.com/site/amatycdmc/</a> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> Thanks, 
>>>>> Linda Zientek 
>>>>> DMC Chair 
>>>> 
>>> **************************************************************************** 
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>>> * Archives at <a href="http://mathforum.org/kb/forum.jspa?forumID=184" target="_blank">http://mathforum.org/kb/forum.jspa?forumID=184</a> * 
>>> **************************************************************************** 
>> 
>> -- 
>> Edward Laughbaum    <a href="http://www.math.osu.edu/~laughbaum.6/" target="_blank">www.math.osu.edu/~laughbaum.6/</a> 
>> The Ohio State University 
>> 231 West 18th Avenue 
>> Columbus, OH 43210 
>> 
>> 
>> TODAY(Beta) ? Powered by Yahoo! 
>> 'American Idol' men amaze judges 
>> Privacy Policy 
>> 
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