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kirby urner

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Re: Just what is equality in mathematics, anyway?
Posted: Apr 19, 2012 4:56 PM
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On Wed, Apr 18, 2012 at 4:09 PM, Robert Hansen <bob@rsccore.com> wrote:
> You mean like this...
>
> http://www.skylit.com/mathandpython.html
>
> Which has a LOT of math.


Lets remember I'm the one who brought that book to your attention in
the first place.

Back to local politics: a lobby of Silicon Foresters (including
Software Association of Oregon) wanted to resurrect Discrete Math, for
which standards had already been written, brush it off, and make it
more computer friendly. August 2009.

We've been watching developments in New Zealand, South Africa,
Singapore and other places for clues and cues.

Also the UK, which recently celebrated the BBC Micro (their TV company
has a different relationship to education than USA companies do). Our
PSF chairman was there for festivities -- python.org has been big into
OLPC as well, another much maligned initiative which so-called
grownups love to disparage).

Did this discrete math proposal fly?

There's not much sense of a classroom teacher base with the necessary
experience. What about returning military? Retired engineers?
Always the same old questions, never seems to go anywhere.

In the meantime, Oregon's education system is starting to go down the
tubes in its present format. Liberal moms are out picketing in favor
of a casino where the dog track used to be, things have gotten so bad.
Are they on strike in Gresham already?

South Africans with the least to lose (really low TIMMS) are resorting
to more peer-to-peer models (ubuntu), given the lack of adults with
the needed skills willing to share them with eager hordes. That's
what's happening over YouTube and such too.

Waiting for teachers, grownups in general, to get their act together
seems like a waste of time. Waiting for superman in general is a poor
substitute for taking some personal responsibility.

> Or do you subscribe to the myth that kids can just play with calculators (or computers) and fathom the significance of these things without mathematical training, thought or reasoning? You never really say where you are going with all this flimflam. What is your goal for the student? Seems like if you really thought digital math was an option that students should have, you would build a case that doesn't turn 99% of the people against it. That is essentially what destroyed OWS, they turned out to be the 1%. Personally, I would create a class designed around Maria's and Gary's book. I don't think you'll have much luck displacing AP Calculus, but the students that are actually successful with AP Calculus usually need something their senior year.
>


OWS inspired thousands of similar experiments, one of which was OPDX,
with its Alpha and Beta Camps. That experiment ran for a number of
weeks, was publicly visible and taught us a lot (especially about
Smedley Butler, who was quoted everywhere).

http://www.flickr.com/photos/17157315@N00/6346977385/in/set-72157627710609369
(game board)

http://www.flickr.com/photos/17157315@N00/6523189497/in/set-72157627710609369/
(smallest Occupy, also in Portland, in Guinness Book of Records
smallest park).

http://www.flickr.com/photos/17157315@N00/6218467981/in/set-72157627710609369
(planting the flag in the opening hours)

The credibility of that event helped patch us in to the global matrix
of young / youthful leaders who use smart phones and social media to
coordinate stuff -- lots of art colonies. This is not a new pattern.
"Student activists" have been on the scenes since the University of
Bologna got going.

The connections to Arab Spring are real, but then that's a moving
target as well. All this terminology has a fairly short half life,
although the emphasis on camping, as in Bar Camp, seems destined to
stay.

http://controlroom.blogspot.com/2012/03/middle-east-studies.html
(Arab Spring connection)

The Washington High School (WHS) building some of us have adopted for
a Ministry of Education headquarters is where Linus Pauling went to
school and where Earth Day has been staged. In Cascadia politics, the
Earth Day, Rainbow Gathering, and Occupy subcultures have many
overlapping roots.

http://www.flickr.com/photos/17157315@N00/sets/72157626567771428/with/5650482742/
(many of the same people -- WHS HQS visible)

Yes, you can say "hippie culture" is part of the heritage, but then so
is North Face.

http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?f=/c/a/2012/04/14/DDRM1O2P3E.DTL

(I know many of the people mentioned in the above article, including
D.W. Jacobs, J. Baldwin)

There's a DIY / outdoors flavor that blends in with our (Cascadia's)
commercial businesses.

Silicon Forest and Valley have close relations, are in some ways an
alliance against Wall Street, which messed up in the dot com bomb
chapter.

Kirby


> Bob Hansen
>
> On Apr 18, 2012, at 6:48 PM, kirby urner wrote:
>

>> On the other hand, we can develop our sense of discrete number types
>> and break them out more.  IEEE floating points are different from
>> integers with a fixed number of bits.



Message was edited by: kirby urner (hoards -> hordes just now)


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