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GS Chandy

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From: Hyderabad, Mumbai/Bangalore, India
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Re: Appeal For Intellectual Integrity
Posted: Apr 23, 2012 9:29 AM
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This is in response to Haim's claim to the effect that 'the political left consistently and continuingly makes things up, while the political right [Haim's side in almost every argument I've seen here] is purer than the driven snow' - ideas to that effect. I am not really a supporter of the political left - though I am definitely and definitively an opponent of most of what passes as the 'political right'. Here is some evidence that Haim (and his supporters) put forth arguments that are "demonstrably false":

In regard to an aid to problem solving and decision making that I have invented and am promoting, Haim and his supporters have consistently claimed, "OPMS is list-making and nothing else". This is DEMONSTRABLY FALSE, and has been shown to be DEMONSTRABLY FALSE. (See brief attachment herewith to understand that OPMS is something quite definitively more than "mere list-making").

Haim claims:
> I would not be surprised if there were some
> ome criticism of TFA from the political right, but
> Malcolm Gladwell said, on a nationally broadcast
> program, that ALL the criticism of TFA comes from the
> political right.
>
> Since that is demonstrably false, Gladwell just
> ust made it up. This sort of thing goes hand-in-hand
> with revising the historical record to taste, I
> think.
>

I did not see/hear the Gladwell statement on the nationally televised program that Haim refers to, but I would tend to believe he must have said "Most of the criticism of TFA comes from the political right" (and NOT what Haim states he did - providing, you will notice, no real evidence on the matter).

It strikes me that - given his historical record right here at Math-teach - what Haim has stated is MUCH more likely to be "demonstrably false" than whatever Gladwell might have stated. As I've demonstrated earlier in this message and in many other of my posts here in the past, Haim and his supporters are indeed very assiduous purveyors of what is "demonstrably false".

GSC
("Still Shoveling Away")

> Paul A. Tanner, III Posted: Mar 26, 2012 2:32 PM
> >
> >> And your continued attempts at fabricting
> >> diversions has been working very well, indeed.

> >
> >It is not a fabrication that your racist claims are
> >racist.

>
> Nah, it's just a fabrication. In fact, I was
> was reminded how socialists just make things up when
> I saw this video,
> http://www.c-spanvideo.org/program/AChanc
>
> In this video, Wendy Kopp, the founder of Teach
> ach For America, is being interviewed by Malcolm
> Gladwell, a staff writer for The New Yorker magazine.
> At approx minute 7:50 of the video, Gladwell says to
> o Kopp that criticism of Teach For American
> invariably comes from the political right.
>
> I marveled at this and, of course, wondered if it
> it were true. So, I googled "teach for america
> criticism". Now, I only browsed three or four google
> pages, but ALL I saw was criticism from the political
> left. Some criticism came from former Teachers For
> America (or should that be Teach For Americans?) and
> a great deal of criticism from the Education Mafia.
> I saw nothing that could be positively identified as
> s politically right. Here are a couple of items that
> may interest you,
>
> http://www.dailykos.com/story/2012/03/18/1075461/-Seat
> tle-Reconsidering-Teach-for-America
> and
> http://www.feministe.us/blog/archives/2008/08/23/why-i
> -hate-teach-for-america/
>
> I would not be surprised if there were some
> ome criticism of TFA from the political right, but
> Malcolm Gladwell said, on a nationally broadcast
> program, that ALL the criticism of TFA comes from the
> political right.
>
> Since that is demonstrably false, Gladwell just
> ust made it up. This sort of thing goes hand-in-hand
> with revising the historical record to taste, I
> think.
>
> Haim
> Shovel ready? What shovel ready?



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Robert Hansen
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Paul A. Tanner III
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Haim
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GS Chandy
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Haim
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Paul A. Tanner III
3/23/12
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Haim
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GS Chandy
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