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K_h

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Re: On the diagonal argument again
Posted: May 18, 2012 12:44 AM
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"Graham Cooper" wrote in message
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On May 17, 7:07 am, Shmuel (Seymour J.) Metz
<spamt...@library.lspace.org.invalid> wrote:
> > In <jouvko$58...@speranza.aioe.org>, on 05/16/2012
> > at 02:24 AM, "LudovicoVan" <ju...@diegidio.name> said:
> >

> > >You can't.
> >
> > Nor can anybody else.

>
>
> that's because you are asking the WRONG QUESTION!
>
> I can provide an INFINITE LIST of INFINITE LISTS of ALL REALS!


If by "list" you mean a bijection between naturals and reals then no.

>
> All 100% computable and trivially so!
>
> EACH INFINITE LIST OF REALS is a DIFFERENT PERMUTATION of the SAME
> COMPLETE SET OF REALS.


If by "list" you mean a bijection between 2^aleph_null ordinals and all the
reals, all well ordered, then yes. But in this case there can be no
anti-diagonal created from the list of all 2^aleph_null reals.

>
> The ANTI-DIAGONAL of the 1ST LIST OF ALL REALS
> is computable by some other LIST OF ALL REALS
> in the infinite sequence of LISTS, all computable by 1 single Turing
> Machine!


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