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Re: How Bad it Is
Posted:
Jun 4, 2012 1:03 AM
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You got nothing on AP. Just your BS propaganda based on unscientific
and anti-scientific "analysis".
I in my posts
"Re: 2001 AP/TIMSS Study - BUSTED"
http://mathforum.org/kb/message.jspa?messageID=7832219
and
"Re: 2001 AP/TIMSS Study - BUSTED"
http://mathforum.org/kb/message.jspa?messageID=7832299
exposed your unscientific and anti-scientific "analysis" as just that,
and I reiterate everything I said in my post
http://mathforum.org/kb/message.jspa?messageID=7832592
which is in this present thread.
As for your upcoming post on AP in FL: If you try to claim that
Florida's performance is the performance of the rest of the country,
then I will point out that that claim is fraud - that's right, it
would be fraud to say that every state in the nation is performing as
badly as the worst state in the nation, whatever that worst state
would be, whether it is FL or some other state.
On Sun, Jun 3, 2012 at 10:29 PM, Robert Hansen <bob@rsccore.com> wrote:
> It is so funny that you mention this. I noticed the same effect in Florida.
> The black passing rate in 2000 was 32%, by 2010 it had dropped below 18%,
> and then in 2011 it popped up 2%. For example, in Indiana the black passing
> rate was 23% in 2000 and by 2010 had dropped to 17.5%, and then in 2011 it
> popped up to 19.9%, almost 2%. Massachusetts didn't get a big pop. In MA in
> 2000 the black passing rate was 54% (that should have been the news item).
> By 2010 it had dropped to 34.6%, in 2011 it only rose to 34.7%.
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> There is a reason for the pop silly pants. They eliminated guessing in 2011.
> The slide will continue, just watch.
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> And that statistic about AP creating more success because the absolute
> number of students passing the exams is rising, even though the passing rate
> is tanking, is FRAUD. Do you remember Boston Chicken (now called Boston
> Market)? In the early 90's they were growing like wildfire, new stores
> everywhere. The problem was that the growth was a sham. They were opening
> 100's of stores and tripling in size every couple years, but these were
> franchises and the revenue they were reporting was the initial purchase of
> the franchises. The franchises themselves though were TANKING, very much
> like the AP programs in these schools is TANKING. The company declared
> bankruptcy, the stock went to zero.
>
> The College Board is running the same scam. The growth in number of kids and
> number of kids passing is because the College Board is adding schools like
> Boston Chicken was adding stores. But the schools themselves are TANKING!
>
> I have a post coming soon that explains why Florida is tanking so fast in
> AP.
>
> Bob Hansen
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> On Jun 3, 2012, at 3:22 PM, Paul Tanner wrote:
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> But although blacks are disproportionately not in AP programs, the
> passing rate is actually going up among blacks and Hispanics all over
> the place:
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> "AP: More Pass and More Fail"
> http://www.insidehighered.com/news/2010/02/11/ap
>
> "STEM Initiative in Mass. Boosts AP Passing Rates, Study Finds"
> http://blogs.edweek.org/edweek/curriculum/2012/03/a_statewide_program_in_massach.html
>
> Quote: "The greatest benefits came for African-American and Hispanic
> students in both high-need schools and what it calls "mid-need"
> schools, according to the study."
>
> "Indiana scores AP performance gains"
> http://www.doe.in.gov/news/indiana-scores-ap-performance-gains
>
> Quote: "African-American, Hispanic/Latino, and low-income students
> increased both their participation and passage rates on AP exams."
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